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Tamiya Matilda Mark III/IV
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Posted: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 - 10:42 PM UTC
Hi all,

I've finished my second ever armour build - Tamiya Matilda Mark III/IV.

I'm aware re the inaccuracies of the Tamiya paint choices for the Caunter Scheme, but wasn't aware until after finishing!!! I'm lucky enough to live within a 40 min drive of Bovington, so have seen the working example Tamiya based their scheme on, so hadn't thought to doubt it.

Fairly happy with this but always ongoing room for improvement, so any feedback is welcome. Think I went slightly overboard on the chipping, but then again desert tanks got a battering? Also not happy with the tracks - think maybe too much pigment for sand, so may well try and brush off.











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Posted: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 - 11:10 PM UTC
Nice job on the Caunter scheme.

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Posted: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 - 07:53 AM UTC
Thanks Mark. The masking was a bit time consuming, but not as fiddly as I feared.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 02, 2020 - 02:31 PM UTC
I know this has been out there awhile, but wanted to say you did a GREAT job on your Matilda, ESPECIALLY it being one of your first AFVs! I think your chipping is fine, but I would consider adding more dust/dirt on the horizontal surfaces, since tracks in the desert through up a huge amount of dust. Nicely done!

By the way, I just finished my Matilda some time last fall. And I agree, the Caunter scheme looks a lot more frightening than it turns out to be!
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Posted: Thursday, September 03, 2020 - 09:04 AM UTC
Wow! For only your second armor build it looks amazing!!!!!!
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Posted: Friday, September 25, 2020 - 12:40 PM UTC

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I know this has been out there awhile, but wanted to say you did a GREAT job on your Matilda, ESPECIALLY it being one of your first AFVs! I think your chipping is fine, but I would consider adding more dust/dirt on the horizontal surfaces, since tracks in the desert through up a huge amount of dust. Nicely done!

By the way, I just finished my Matilda some time last fall. And I agree, the Caunter scheme looks a lot more frightening than it turns out to be!



Iíve only just seen your comments. Iím going to have a revisit regarding dust on the top surfaces. Iíve kind of avoided it a little whilst doing builds as itís a different approach to mud, which Iím more comfortable with. Not really sure whether to try pigments, an acrylic dust wash, or go with oil paints. Think Iíve been procrastinating enough and will just have to give it a go.

Your kind comments are very much appreciated. Likewise Ezra.

By coincidence I recently revisited Bovington. Theyíve either repainted their version in more historically accurate colours (light stone, silver grey and slate as opposed to blue.) now, or they had a second example Iíve somehow missed before. The name has either been changed to Greyhound, from I think Phantom, or Defiance, or it is indeed another example.
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Posted: Friday, October 16, 2020 - 01:18 AM UTC
Lovely work. I think it looks brilliant.
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Posted: Friday, October 16, 2020 - 03:25 AM UTC
Neatly done!


Question to the group.....
Regarding the Caunter camo scheme...

Is this currently considered incorrect?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Infantry_Tank_Mark_II_%28Matilda_II%29_-_MVTF.jpg/1600px-Infantry_Tank_Mark_II_%28Matilda_II%29_-_MVTF.jpg
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Posted: Friday, October 16, 2020 - 08:43 AM UTC

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Neatly done!


Question to the group.....
Regarding the Caunter camo scheme...

Is this currently considered incorrect?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Infantry_Tank_Mark_II_%28Matilda_II%29_-_MVTF.jpg/1600px-Infantry_Tank_Mark_II_%28Matilda_II%29_-_MVTF.jpg



Hi Barney, when I was researching it (after painting mine) it seems there is some dispute over the caunter scheme, more specifically the colours. It seems the blue is the main point of contention and debated that originated from errors in the 60ís/70ís and replicated by museums incorrectly since. One line of thought is the silver grey of the caunter scheme when faded and covered in dust gave an incorrect impression of blue.

Bovington seem to have changed the colours on their example recently to replace the blue. Iíve got a photo somewhere which Iíll post up when back at my laptop.
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Posted: Saturday, October 17, 2020 - 08:49 AM UTC
Thanks! One of the few survivors of my earlier modeling days is a Tamiya Matilda in the now incorrect Caunter scheme with light blue.
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Posted: Saturday, October 17, 2020 - 11:55 AM UTC
Mike Starmer has written authoritatively on this colour scheme, and coincidentally, on the M3 Grant, and M3 Stuart. His articles and books will answer literally all your questions.
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Posted: Saturday, October 17, 2020 - 04:11 PM UTC
Your second tank - this week? You look like you've been building these for years - nice work.
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Posted: Saturday, October 17, 2020 - 05:03 PM UTC

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Mike Starmer has written authoritatively on this colour scheme, and coincidentally, on the M3 Grant, and M3 Stuart. His articles and books will answer literally all your questions.



Do you have the ISBN codes of these books, please?
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Posted: Sunday, October 18, 2020 - 12:20 AM UTC
Published by Partizan Press. The ISBN code of volume 3 on the Caunter scheme is 978185818365
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Posted: Sunday, October 18, 2020 - 07:00 AM UTC
I found this article on Mike Starmer's Caunter work.
Lots of photos with models sporting the scheme.

https://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=5673
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Posted: Sunday, October 18, 2020 - 09:12 AM UTC
The pattern was different for different vehicles.
Here's Mike Starmer's article in Military Modelling, featuring the Caunter pattern for the Matilda:
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/missinglynx/military-modelling-article-matilda-caunter-scheme-t325488.html

Mike's camouflage books are great. Highly recommended.