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SS Panzergrenadier Regiment 25 Normandy
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Posted: Monday, September 07, 2020 - 11:46 PM UTC

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Nate,

No worries mate! Iíll see if I can post some pics on Sunday when I attend Armourfest at the museum. Otherwise, might have to wait until I return home next week and get access to my PC, also where my Rots photos are stored

In the meantime, if you google Australian Armour and Artillery Museum (or access their FB site), you will see the videos of 327ís arrival. The fully restored Maybach sounds fantastic.

Ian

PS Iíve been accessing Armorama for many years and finally decided today to register and finally contribute!




Thank you so much!
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Posted: Thursday, August 27, 2020 - 09:29 PM UTC
Nate,

No worries mate! Iíll see if I can post some pics on Sunday when I attend Armourfest at the museum. Otherwise, might have to wait until I return home next week and get access to my PC, also where my Rots photos are stored

In the meantime, if you google Australian Armour and Artillery Museum (or access their FB site), you will see the videos of 327ís arrival. The fully restored Maybach sounds fantastic.

Ian

PS Iíve been accessing Armorama for many years and finally decided today to register and finally contribute!
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Posted: Thursday, August 27, 2020 - 08:55 PM UTC

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Hi Nate, love your work and research on this thread!

On a related note, I am led to believe that the Panther A delivered to the Australian Armour and Artillery Museum in Cairns two days ago (restored by Axis Track Services in the UK), is in fact from 3 Kompanie, Panzer Regiment 25. If so, then 327 is indeed a wonder.

I am fortunate enough to be in Cairns at the moment and will see her running on Sunday. Iíll check out more info at the museum, but I have no reason at the moment to doubt the bona fides.

No doubt plenty on this site already knew this, but it will be amazing to see her nonetheless. Coincidentally, I was also fortunate to be in Normandy in 2016 and went to Rots to take my own Ďthen and nowí pics in that iconic location.




Thank you for the kind words! I had no idea that one of the 12th SS's Panthers survived, let alone on of 3rd Kompanies! I would love to know the story behind it and see some photos. Also, that is really interesting that you went to Rots and got your own before and after shots.

I'm not the best at navigating this site, I cant even submit a personal photo to the kitmaker gallery so I can use it for my profile pic, but I would love to see those photos, if they're online somewhere!
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Posted: Thursday, August 27, 2020 - 07:27 PM UTC
Hi Nate, love your work and research on this thread!

On a related note, I am led to believe that the Panther A delivered to the Australian Armour and Artillery Museum in Cairns two days ago (restored by Axis Track Services in the UK), is in fact from 3 Kompanie, Panzer Regiment 25. If so, then 327 is indeed a wonder.

I am fortunate enough to be in Cairns at the moment and will see her running on Sunday. Iíll check out more info at the museum, but I have no reason at the moment to doubt the bona fides.

No doubt plenty on this site already knew this, but it will be amazing to see her nonetheless. Coincidentally, I was also fortunate to be in Normandy in 2016 and went to Rots to take my own Ďthen and nowí pics in that iconic location.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 - 03:18 PM UTC
Update:

Hey all! Just a quick update. I've been so busy working and doing house projects that I haven't had time to work on the Takom Panther A or diorama base. I did, however, order RADO's new 12th SS figure set the second it released. They came in last week and I was able to put them together super quick. Here's how they came out.

They are exquisite figures and perfect for this project. I'm very proud of them

I hope everyone is doing great and staying safe. Greetings and love from Southwest Missouri, USA.












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Posted: Thursday, May 14, 2020 - 01:43 AM UTC
Cool poses!
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Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - 09:29 PM UTC
Regarding the figure painting: I know what you feel. Before my real serious project I never painted figures in a serious way, yet I wanted to use 40 of them. I just had to do it, so, after the whole lot was ready, I had no choice. I collected the (in my eyes) right tools: good paintbrushes, a optivisor (my eyes aren't that good anymore), a wet pallete (I decided for acryllics) and a whole bunch of paint (civillians are more colorfull than military), I set myself to it. I must say that I am not dissatisfied
https://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=280411&page=1
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Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - 03:41 PM UTC
Update: Here's some more photos of the figures, finished in construction, with the exception of a few shovel handles, and a few tiny details. They're essentially ready to be primed and painted.

I have every figure on a stand and covered with a miniature ziploc baggie to shield it from dust. Just before painting I'll remove the baggie, soak them in a bowl with a little distilled water and dish soap, dry them and prime them. I'm unsure of what to prime them in. I'll be using either my Badger Sotar 20/20, Omni 4000, or 200G or Renegade Spirit, but am also unsure of which color.

I have mission models black, Mig Ammo White One shot, AK Dark Yellow, Mr. Oxide Red Surfacer 1000 and

I've also included a photo of all the rejected figures I've built up and worked on for this project. I thought you all may find it interesting to see how jumbled my figure construction and sculpting process is.

































All the figures and project figs I decided against using. Except the casualty at the top.




How I feel after a long day like today!
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Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - 02:02 AM UTC

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Very nice work! Excellent job on the figures. Would love to see this in person one day! Maybe the next MOSS CON.



Thanks Mike! It will 100% be at the next MOSS CON. It sucks it got cancelled this year, but, this dio wasn't near ready and would have been super rushed and so, I suppose that's the silver-lining.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - 02:01 AM UTC

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What a brilliant thread! I'm thoroughly enjoying following your really great in-depth research.

I'm also very interested in the battless around Caen and am learning a lot from this thread.




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Those figures are getting awesome!!! Can't wait to see them painted and in place on a dio!!!



Thanks Mike and Erwin! I'm doing my very best, but we will see when the figure painting starts. It's my biggest trouble spot in modelling, so it's going to be tough.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - 01:59 AM UTC

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Nate! Wow! It looks like all's well that ends well. Glad the turret fix was simple. The grouping of figures is going to really work well with the scene you have in mind. That's a lot of work on each of them. Rutman-esque in scale and effort. good job conveying movement and action. Looking forward to the next posts.





Thanks Dave! It was very simple, luckily the glue hadn't eaten too deep into the turret roof! I really appreciate the comments, I'm a huge fan-boy of Jerry's so that's great to hear.
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Posted: Monday, May 11, 2020 - 06:55 PM UTC
Those figures are getting awesome!!! Can't wait to see them painted and in place on a dio!!!
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Posted: Monday, May 11, 2020 - 02:53 AM UTC
What a brilliant thread! I'm thoroughly enjoying following your really great in-depth research.

I'm also very interested in the battless around Caen and am learning a lot from this thread.
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Posted: Sunday, May 10, 2020 - 10:06 AM UTC
Nate! Wow! It looks like all's well that ends well. Glad the turret fix was simple. The grouping of figures is going to really work well with the scene you have in mind. That's a lot of work on each of them. Rutman-esque in scale and effort. good job conveying movement and action. Looking forward to the next posts.

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Posted: Sunday, May 10, 2020 - 09:29 AM UTC
Very nice work! Excellent job on the figures. Would love to see this in person one day! Maybe the next MOSS CON.
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Posted: Sunday, May 10, 2020 - 09:00 AM UTC
UPDATE:

Excellent News; I was able to, sort of, fix the glue stained cause by the spilled Tamiya Extra Thin Cement. Lessons were learned. lol.

I've also progressed on nearly all the figures to where they're ready for painting. ALl but a few, there are some that needs some addition putty filling work with Vallejo and Miliput, some sanding and PE work in terms of helmet straps, slings, and a few gear straps. BTW, Jerry, these are the figures from RADO you referenced. This is one of the best figure sets on the market and I100% recommend them, I did modify my NCO slightly with new arms so that hes holding his MP40 instead of adjusting his helmet.

Here's the fixed turret, updated figures and some photos of the 1st Panther (Meng's), I completed before deciding on building TAKOM's. I've also included som eupdates on the TOKOM Panther's zimmerit.

Turret Fix I went at it with a very sharp x-acto knife, working it on it's side to shave the thinnest of layers off. I did my best not to gouge or remove to much. I then used fine grade sand sticks to even it out. The texture does not match the reest of the turret roof, I'm wondering if that Mr. Surfacer would help this? I've never used it.




I may try Mr. Surfacer to see if I can get the textures to mathc, I may forget it and see how it turns out. I'm just very glad it didn't eat into and ruin the turret roof!


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Check out Radu productions. He has a whole new line of running HJ guys either out or about to be released. High quality.
J




Rados excellent figures, slightly modified. I left the grenadier with the k98k stock because he's remarkable. That's a perfect reload posture and detail while running and the stripper clip detail is fantastic.

Machine gunner and casualty. The gunner is made from 4 or 5 different Dragon kits and the casualty is stock, except I replaced his tall early war jackboots which were less common in 44 with the M43 ankle boot and gaiters.





My zeltbahn figures running. Built using 5 different figure sets and lots of putty and sanding.


I love these figures and am really proud of them. I will be making duplicates in the future to use for Wehrmacht Heer and Luftwaffe Ground Units, it just sucks I have to buy all those figure sets again to get the parts I need.
















These figures are also built using parts from 4 different figure sets.



I'm also prouod of these. I worked really hard on their poses. I'm a big believer of realistic and subtle action animation. The smallest tweaks and angles can covey so much movement and, likewise, another adjustment can convey far too much action and appear cartoonish or toy-like.

My 3rd Zeltbahn figure. He will be in cover behind either the lineman's cottage or a stone wall. If i go with a stone wall, it will be comlete guess work as to authenticity, since I have no photos of the actual property it was on. I would pu thim behind the Panther, but the Panther will be in reverse, slowly retreating backward after witnessing 7 of it's brothers taken out by 6lb, 75mm and 17lb Canadian Shermans.





I like him, I'm not totally sold on his head. I use Live Resin helmets but instead of an Alpine or Hornedt head, I chose to keep the stock one...for now. I want to see how it looks with base flesh tone first.



Here are the updated photos of the TAKOM Panther,(the one I'm actually using in the diorama), with the zimmerit applied.





















Finally, for those interested, here are the photos of the nearly completed(construction) MENG Panther A mid-late. I decided against this one for the project when I was nearly done with contrustion. I discovered that I couldnt' verify the Diamler style grid zimmerit with 3rd Kompanie's mounts, and I something just didn't feel right about using it as the one of the focal points of the dio. It's hard to explain, I'm not sure even I understand why, but I had to give TAKOM's a shot. I'm not sure what I'll end up doing with this one, but I know I will be testing my AK dunkelgelb modulation set, MIG AMMO dunkelgelb Aus DG II and III, oil filters, washes and pighments on it. I know it's going to be a test subject for those, and that I will build a bunch of foliage using wire and leaf punches with PE foliage to create a Panther A covered in foliage, like the ones we see in films. The 12th SS's didn't have that enormous amount of foliage and it wouldnt feel right covereing it with all that anyway, but this one I can. I may mark it as one of the 2nd Panzer Divisions, or one that fought deep in the Bocage country or St. Lo where very heavy foliage was used on Panthers. If anyone knows which units or has references, please let me know, because I wan this to be one leafy covered kitty. The TAKOM/ diorama Panther will be clean, with nearly factory new dunkelgelb modulated with olivgrun or reseda grun stripe-blotches and rotbraun or schocolatbraun blotches.














I'm not sure what I'll end up doing with this one, but I know I will be testing my AK dunkelgelb modulation set, MIG AMMO dunkelgelb Aus DG II and III, oil filters, washes and pigments on it. I know it's going to be a test subject for those, and that I will build a bunch of foliage using wire and leaf punches with PE foliage to create a Panther A covered in foliage, like the ones we see in films.

The 12th SS's didn't have an enormous amount of foliage on their panzers from what I've seen from film and photographs from early June, and it wouldn't feel right working so hard on the zimm and modulation just to cover it with a variety of branches and leaves. This MENG Panther A, I can and will. I may mark it as one of the 2nd Panzer Divisions, or one that fought deep in the Bocage country or St. Lo where very heavy foliage was used on Panthers.

If anyone knows which units or has references, please let me know, because I want this to be one leafy covered kitty. If you know which units absolutely covered their panzers in branches, leaves and foliage, I'd love to hear about it.

The TAKOM/ diorama Panther will be clean, with nearly factory new dunkelgelb modulated with olivgrun or reseda grun stripe-blotches and rotbraun or schocolatbraun blotches.


That's all for today. It's abeautiful Mother's day, the lawn is mowed, the bills are paid, the house is clean, and I have a new Oculus Rift S Virtual Reality Headset for my computer that I'm going to try out in WW2 air combat. The game is IL-2 Sturmovik: Operation Bodenplatte. I love their sims. Have a great day everyone!






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Posted: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 - 10:57 PM UTC
The only risk area is the bend in the roof plate.
If that looks off, after sanding, cover it with a tarp, map, etc.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 - 06:51 PM UTC
I would do the same: let dry, sand down and putty if needed... Seems that it could be worse...
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Posted: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 - 05:07 PM UTC
[quote]Disaster has struck!

I've been using Cavalier zimmerit sheets that I was lucky enough to find on ebay for my Takom Panther A late build.

I accidentally knocked over my Tamiya extra thin cement!!

I was able to move most the parts out of the way in time but the turret roof got hit!

It's got a nasty glue stain now! Is this ruined? What would you guys do?




I would try letting it set up, then sanding it back down smooth. From my vantage point it doesnít look like any of the glue glooped onto any high points, bobs, or doohickeys that would need replacing.

Good luck with your solution
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Posted: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 - 04:17 PM UTC
Firstly I love your work Nate, and your devotion to accuracy/veracity. Regarding your Great Cement Disaster of 2020 a couple of observations: 1) Always anchor cement pots down with a big blob of BluTac or whatever the US equivalent is 2) If this is Panther 326 then it would appear the ghost of Eismann has intervened - his horrible fate you described about half way down page 1
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Posted: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 - 02:43 PM UTC
Disaster has struck!

I've been using Cavalier zimmerit sheets that I was lucky enough to find on ebay for my Takom Panther A late build.

I accidentally knocked over my Tamiya extra thin cement!!

I was able to move most the parts out of the way in time but the turret roof got hit!

It's got a nasty glue stain now! Is this ruined? What would you guys do?







As far as updates, here's how the zimmerit is coming along.















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Posted: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 - 02:56 AM UTC
Thatís one cool Takom cat, looking forward to seeing the insides all installed/painted
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Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 - 09:21 PM UTC
http://radominiatures.com/en/
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Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 - 01:54 PM UTC

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Check out Radu productions. He has a whole new line of running HJ guys either out or about to be released. High quality.
J



Thatís sounds wonderful Jerry, exactly why Iím into. Do you have a link by chance? Iíve googled Radu and havenít come up with anything. I do have a set of running 12th SS figs from Rado, they are some of the best figures Iíve ever seen and Iíve picked up a few to modify for this very project. Perhaps thatís what you were referring to.



Yep,those are the ones,
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Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 - 12:18 PM UTC

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Check out Radu productions. He has a whole new line of running HJ guys either out or about to be released. High quality.
J



Thatís sounds wonderful Jerry, exactly why Iím into. Do you have a link by chance? Iíve googled Radu and havenít come up with anything. I do have a set of running 12th SS figs from Rado, they are some of the best figures Iíve ever seen and Iíve picked up a few to modify for this very project. Perhaps thatís what you were referring to.