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The cross of iron movie
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Posted: Saturday, January 12, 2019 - 02:47 PM UTC
Okay, well I just got done watching the cross of iron and loved it as usual. I must have seen this movie 40-50 times since I bought it 20 years ago maybe. So, I decided to start a little conversation segment here kind of like a what if situation.
Here's a couple of questions to ponder based on the movie.
Sergeant Steiner, whatever happened to him?
Did he live till the end of the war, or did he die fighting?
If you did survive the war what do you think he would have been in civilian life?
Knowing his character, like to know your opinions on the what if scenario of these questions and also if you have questions I could follow up as well. Kind of makes you wonder if there would have been A Part 2 to the Cross of iron, nope!
In my opinion I don't think so I think it ended just as is.
But if you think about it you could ask the same questions about the other main characters as well but then you can get into one of those deep conversations that you might not be able to get out of.
Like I said, just a few questions something to ponder if need be.
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Posted: Saturday, January 12, 2019 - 02:55 PM UTC
I read the book.

Kinda precludes a need to answer the question.
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Posted: Monday, January 14, 2019 - 12:18 AM UTC
Gary,
I completely forgot there was a book. Is it by the same title or different title? I wonder if it's still available?
Thanks.
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Posted: Monday, January 14, 2019 - 12:21 AM UTC
Yes, the book is still available under the name 'Cross of Iron.' Check out Amazon.
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Posted: Monday, January 14, 2019 - 12:26 AM UTC
I wonder if it is better than the movie? Some books are but then again some of the movies are better than the actual books themselves.
I once read enemy at the gates, and that was a much better read then what the movie was completely different.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 - 01:16 PM UTC

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Okay, well I just got done watching the cross of iron and loved it as usual. I must have seen this movie 40-50 times since I bought it 20 years ago maybe. So, I decided to start a little conversation segment here kind of like a what if situation.
Here's a couple of questions to ponder based on the movie.
Sergeant Steiner, whatever happened to him?
Did he live till the end of the war, or did he die fighting?
If you did survive the war what do you think he would have been in civilian life?
Knowing his character, like to know your opinions on the what if scenario of these questions and also if you have questions I could follow up as well. Kind of makes you wonder if there would have been A Part 2 to the Cross of iron, nope!
In my opinion I don't think so I think it ended just as is.
But if you think about it you could ask the same questions about the other main characters as well but then you can get into one of those deep conversations that you might not be able to get out of.
Like I said, just a few questions something to ponder if need be.



I think Steiner would have survived, and probably, as a civilian, would have kicked around from job to job, as he probably sees the futility in ambition.

If there had been a sequel, and focusing solely on the war years, it wouldn't have taken place too far past the original CoI, which I think takes place in spring/summer of 1943. Maybe could it have been a continuation of the first movie, or, focusing on the German surrender, and we follow Steiner back to whatever home he might have left, as a civilian, and the hardships endured.

For the other characters, it'd be interesting to see what became of the regimental commander, as well as the leutenant
that machine-gunned Steiner's squad as they came into the German lines (or did he killed in the movie? I don't remember). Of course too, what became of the Captain who so dearly wanted his CoI.

Just my thoughts...thanks for posting the topic!

Tim

BTW, I enjoyed "Enemy at the gates" both as movie and book!
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Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 - 09:29 PM UTC
But there is a movie sequel; the borderline bad "Breakthrough " with Richard Burton, Robert Mitchum and Rod Steiger.

The best part is how well they dressed up the Austrian Army M47s to be US tanks. Strewn with equipment and proper bumper codes, really a waste when the movie is so lackluster.

And read the book. It's a literary trope that a true man of war cannot survive being without war. Steiner fits into that trope but no spoilers here. Its actually propsed that Steiner does die at the end of the first movie. (Peckinpah supposively once said the laughter at the end was going to be followed by a gunshot)

Forgotten Soldier by Guy Sajer owes a lot to Willi Heinrich's novel even though it is purported to be a memoir. Similar characters and conversations.

But it can be argued that the Russian front was like that. Even war itself is like that, men making the same choices and saying similar things with only the uniforms and weapons changing.

So broad and expansive with a mind numbing sameness.