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1/350 Kleiner Kreuzer Emden - Tsingtau 1913
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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2018 - 01:43 AM UTC

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…I did improved the top deck with adding two aperatures which are missing in the kit - I don´t have any clue what the real ones are for



Those two apparatuses are control panels for the foremast searchlights that are placed directly above them - you must provide some pole connecting between them. Same control panels you have also in the stern section, on the main mast, but there they are placed in the median plane.
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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2018 - 08:38 AM UTC

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Those two apparatuses are control panels for the foremast searchlights that are placed directly above them - you must provide some pole connecting between them. Same control panels you have also in the stern section, on the main mast, but there they are placed in the median plane.



Welcome aboard Michael and thank you very much for your explanation. Some pole connecting between them - this I don´t understand clearly what you mean. In my sole lecture I have about it - the KAGERO drawings - there are no poles between them visible. Can you be more specific? I would like to have the ship accurately

Cheers!

Thomas
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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2018 - 08:43 PM UTC
I am using 1:200 drawings by Peter Günther Huff, they are very detailed. Please pay attention to the line connecting between the searchlight and its panel below. Those are the foremast searchlights, starboard view:

Those are the same searchlights and panels from the stern view:

And those are the searchlights on the main mast:

I don't know exactly what kind of connection it was, but, given the fact that we talk about a ship built in 1909, I suppose that it is some hard rod that translates the steering wheel's rotation on the control panel to the rotation of a searchlight in its gimbal.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 - 10:57 AM UTC
Am really enjoying your work on the Emden.....Cheers mark
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Posted: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 - 06:01 AM UTC

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I am using 1:200 drawings by Peter Günther Huff, they are very detailed. Please pay attention to the line connecting between the searchlight and its panel below. Those are the foremast searchlights, starboard view:

Those are the same searchlights and panels from the stern view:

And those are the searchlights on the main mast:

I don't know exactly what kind of connection it was, but, given the fact that we talk about a ship built in 1909, I suppose that it is some hard rod that translates the steering wheel's rotation on the control panel to the rotation of a searchlight in its gimbal.



Michael thank you very much for your highly helpful input - now I know what you mean. I just wish I would had These drawings at hand right at the beginning of my build. In the Kagero book there is no rod at all shown - it seems these KAGERO book about the Emden is not too much sophisticated with the true details.


Thanks again a lot mate!
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Posted: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 - 06:02 AM UTC

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Am really enjoying your work on the Emden.....Cheers mark




Hi Mark, thanks for commenting my work. Glad to have you on board, too!
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 01:08 AM UTC

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Michael thank you very much for your highly helpful input - now I know what you mean. I just wish I would had These drawings at hand right at the beginning of my build. In the Kagero book there is no rod at all shown - it seems these KAGERO book about the Emden is not too much sophisticated with the true details.

Thanks again a lot mate!



Glad to help! I have started my Emden building a 7 years ago, put it on the long pause, but your work pushed me to return to it so thank you too!

I had passed on the Kagero book preview online and have to say that it seems to be wrong in many cases. If you want Huff's drawings I can send them to you.
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 05:28 AM UTC

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Glad to help! I have started my Emden building a 7 years ago, put it on the long pause, but your work pushed me to return to it so thank you too!

I had passed on the Kagero book preview online and have to say that it seems to be wrong in many cases. If you want Huff's drawings I can send them to you.



I am very dissapointed about this KAGERO edition. I also discovered many discrepancies. I would be happy if I would have the chance to get your drawings too. There is still it´s sister ship DRESDEN waiting at the bench for a later build and the DRESDEN is almost identical exept for the color.

I hope I will see your EMDEN one day not far in the future here too!

Cheers
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 08:37 AM UTC
Alle Mann in die Boote! The lifeboats are finished! The items from Revell are rather clumsy but with some useful PE-parts, a bit paint and a careful washing I was able to make the best out of them.


This is before the liferings and the rudders were attached


And this is the finished look


Now I have to decide if I put all boats aboard or make a scene with one boat approaching the anchored ship...
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 10:58 AM UTC
Sweet!
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 09:03 PM UTC
The boats look excellent Thomas,

Whatever you decide to do with some / all of the boats, they will lift the build.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 02:32 AM UTC
Your attention to detail is excellent. I wish I had your talent in manipulating the pe. Excellent build. Will continue to watch your work.
John
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 03:56 AM UTC
More and more impressive everytime I look
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 08:11 AM UTC

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Sweet!




Thank you Mark, I do my best :-)
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 08:15 AM UTC

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The boats look excellent Thomas,

Whatever you decide to do with some / all of the boats, they will lift the build.

Cheers

Si



Thank you very much Si - I already decided how to continue: I will display the ship anchored with its gangway down and the small motorised lifeboat is approaching. Some sailors will be needed onboard for watching the scene.


Much work still lies ahead it seems
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 08:18 AM UTC

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Your attention to detail is excellent. I wish I had your talent in manipulating the pe. Excellent build. Will continue to watch your work.
John




Thanks a lot John. The talent was build up with blood and sweat during some decades - I love modelling since I got a TAMIYA 1:50 IJN biplane from my Father. From this time on I never stopped building something
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 08:21 AM UTC

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More and more impressive everytime I look



Anthony that makes me feeling proud. I will try to keep on staggering your feelings a bit more during my next build stages which will follow.


Cheers
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 03:14 PM UTC
The boats look excellent, Thomas!!

Gaz
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 05:55 PM UTC

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The boats look excellent, Thomas!!

Gaz




Thank you my friend. It was only possible due to my optivisor and micro tweezers
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 08:54 PM UTC
Vision and tools, my friend!

Have a Happy Holidays!

Gaz
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Posted: Saturday, December 22, 2018 - 09:29 PM UTC
I can report some visible progress today: I did added the lifeboats and the ship´s davits exept the one steamboat which will later approach the anchored ship. The stern gangway for the higher officers and the bow "gangway" (how is it called?) for the lower ranks to enter the ship is finished. Then I added the guns (two of the upper 5 cm guns are somehow MIA and I hope to find them soon again . I did a careful wash of the ships outer panel lines to give more contrast. And lastly I made canvas for the bridge´s frontal railings with cristal clear, painted with GUNZE H313 Yellow. I like the outcome a lot.


Zoomed detail pic of the stern gangway


Zoomed Detail pic of the bow "gangway" for the lower ranks


All lifeboats in positon. Discovered that I need to reglue the right small lifeboat again...


View of the bridge with the new canvas for the railings


Next will be the two masts with all its small parts
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Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2018 - 10:29 AM UTC
Thomas,

Those gangways look wonderful, nice job. The canvas on those railings did come out very nice.

Mark
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Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2018 - 09:54 PM UTC
Very impressed so far. She has an eternal link with Australia through her unfortunate demise.....Cheers Mark
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Posted: Monday, December 24, 2018 - 01:29 AM UTC
Very nice Thomas,

The gangways look neat in place, and the detail work on the boats stands out. Canvas covers look good too, the old Krystal klear works well.


Happy Christmas,

Si
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Posted: Monday, December 24, 2018 - 08:30 AM UTC
Thomas,
She really looks fantastic! The boats and davits add a lot to the deck detail.

I am really enjoying this build! I wish they made Emden in 1/200 scale!

Gaz