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Armor/AFV: Large Scale
1/16 and Larger Armor Modeling
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Building the 1/16th. Jagdtiger from Trumpeter
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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - 11:37 PM UTC



Just test fitted here, had to remove the rounds and paint the racks.

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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - 11:33 PM UTC
I have the Ammo Racks assembled painted & installed.

Here is how I did it, this is for the lerge one on the right side, you can do the same for the others.

The instructions give you a view of the back side and are very confusing .



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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2017 - 06:11 PM UTC
The Gun Mount temporaily fitted.



Once again the Ammo from the museum I don't know how accurate it is.


I'm working on the other Ammo racks next. I'll let you know how they go together next.
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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2017 - 06:06 PM UTC
The Shell Rack just positioned, i'll glue it down once the upper hull is installed.




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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2017 - 05:55 PM UTC
I built a small holder for the Water Can out of angle stock, I'm not sure if it is seposed to be there, but it's in the Pic.

Here's the Pic. I was talking about.

You can see it to the left of the Ammo Rack. Also note the depresions in the base of the rack, they are missing in the kit part that is why you have to leave the bases of the shells that you use here off.
The Water Can.

In this position the can may be tilted for pouring without having to remove it from its storage position.
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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2017 - 05:47 PM UTC
Here is how I did the rear grease mount with fittings.
There are 2 parts from the Tiger II kit included in the kit. I removed them from the center braces and trimmed as shown.

I notched the ends as shown you could also just trim off the ends, maby that would have been better.

They fit just right between the Ammo Box and the sides.

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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2017 - 05:42 PM UTC

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I didn't mean to insult you, Sam but I think that you are wrong on the Gun Mount.

That's all for today.
Donald



Hi Donald - please explain how Im wrong with the gun mount. Im keen to hear how I got it wrong when I used images of unrestored actual vehicles, both the Aberdeen and Bovington ones. The images I posted clearly show that Trumpeter got it wrong. Im not insulted by any means, I'm just keen to hear what reasoning you use to justify saying I'm wrong.

Sam



Hi Sam.
I've been going with what information that I've had available. You posted the pics. after this post, obviously Trumpeter screwed up big time especially on a kit with a list price of $400 U.S. dollars. If you had posted the pics. with your scratch built mount I wouldn't have said anything. On a side note without plans or a cutting diogram I doubt that anyone will try to do what you have done.
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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2017 - 01:41 PM UTC

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I didn't mean to insult you, Sam but I think that you are wrong on the Gun Mount.

That's all for today.
Donald



Hi Donald - please explain how Im wrong with the gun mount. Im keen to hear how I got it wrong when I used images of unrestored actual vehicles, both the Aberdeen and Bovington ones. The images I posted clearly show that Trumpeter got it wrong. Im not insulted by any means, I'm just keen to hear what reasoning you use to justify saying I'm wrong.

Sam
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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2017 - 02:09 AM UTC

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Now for the Gun Mount.
Sam says it's wrong, but I think it is right for the 128mm Gun.
The one that he has in his build looks more correct for the 88mm gun that was fitted in a few of the Jagdtigers. You can't always go by what is in a Museum restoration.
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Trumpeter used images of the prototype to detail their mount, and its 100% wrong for a production vehicle. The images and information I used came from UNRESTORED museum vehicles. Also, there was never an 88mm version of the Jagdtiger, its a myth!

What Trumpeter used for their gun mount:


The UNRESTORED Bovington Jagdtiger:


The UNRESTORED Aberdeen Jagdtiger:






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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 06:49 PM UTC
Now to mount it in the hull.

After placing it in position you can slide the ammo box up to its rear end.


There's a small notch on the front of the box that fits the tab on the back of the mount like below.



I didn't mean to insult you, Sam but I think that you are wrong on the Gun Mount.

That's all for today.
Donald
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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 06:42 PM UTC
Now for the Gun Mount.
Sam says it's wrong, but I think it is right for the 128mm Gun.
The one that he has in his build looks more correct for the 88mm gun that was fitted in a few of the Jagdtigers. You can't always go by what is in a Museum restoration.


You can't see much of the projectiles that are stored in its base.

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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 06:33 PM UTC
Now to install the Ammo Box into the lower hull.

I slid one side in first like so.

Then spreading the sides of the hull slightly, inserted the other side.

There is a loose fit right now but it will tighten up later.
I didn't glue it down yet.
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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 06:29 PM UTC
There's a really nice water can in the kit.



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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 06:23 PM UTC
The Ammo install.
The floor box first.




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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 02:19 AM UTC
I painted the powder end a light Field Grey.


The other end has some nice detailing unfortunately it can't be seen.


That's all for now, I need a nap.
Donald
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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 02:09 AM UTC
The reason you don't use the end parts as the rack has flat spots where the rounds go, and the rounds with the bases won't fit.


Now for the Cartrige Cases.


I know that there are going to be some of you who say they should be painted, here is what I have found.


I have painted them a metalic aluminum color.
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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 02:02 AM UTC
Now on to the Ammo, I painted the shells first.
Don't glue the bases to all the shells as you will need 14 of them for the Sponson rack.


This base will go on the rest of them.

This is the rack for the left rear of the Sponson .

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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2017 - 06:57 PM UTC
The Model Masters Chrome was what I was asking about. Thanks for the reply I will have to check that out color on my next extinguisher.
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 09:48 PM UTC
What a beast do you have over there, nice pics, thanks
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 08:39 PM UTC
Not too bad a fit on the left side.

The right side has a slightly bigger gap

The rear fenders will cover the gap between the rear plate and the sponson floors.
It's just test fitted here.

Bottom view.

That's all for now, next it's on to the Ammo.
Donald
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 08:31 PM UTC

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Thanks for doing the build log!! (I'm not on Bookface)
Would like to see how you handle the rear back plate as that seems to be the worst issue you have shown for me.
Still thinking about getting one I was hoping that Tamiya would bring one out in a static form without R/C but it doesn't look like its going to happen


Here's how the inner plate went in, you have to spring open the rear bottom of the hull and insert the inner plate up against the engine compartment devider walls.

Glue Parts N32 & N33 to the outer plate as shown, but be sure to clean up the edges first

Then glue the outer plate to the hull being careful to get the joints as tight as possible, you will still have to do some filling.
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Posted: Thursday, January 19, 2017 - 02:46 AM UTC
Ive been having a think about the floor plates. Perhaps they're captive in the channel that runs front and back, and that to get to the ammo underneath, you'd have to lift the plate up and slide it to one side, over the other plate its next to.

So to get to the ammo near the centre of the bin, you'd lift an inner plate, and slide it towards the hull side, over the top of the outer plate, then return it to its normal position. Same with moving the outer plate, you'd lift it up and slide it inwards, over the top of the inner plate. Now obviously the handles would stop the plates from moving too far either way, as would the hull side, and the gun travel lock assembly.

Just thinking out loud here..

Sam
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Posted: Thursday, January 19, 2017 - 01:43 AM UTC
I made some Handles for sliding the Floor Plates, I know they aren't accurate, but they are better than what Trumpeter gives you.

Above was folded up, and below is in the down position.

And for those of you who say the floor pannels didn't slide, here are a couple of Pics. I got off the net.
The first clearly shows the slide channel.

The second shows the open box with a round in it.

With 4 Floor pannels there wouldn't be any place for them to slide, besides they really aren't needed under the Gun Breech '
That's it for now.
Donald
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Posted: Thursday, January 19, 2017 - 01:36 AM UTC
Now I'm on the Floor Ammo Box.
I used the larger of the Floor Panels thinning the slide edges.

Here the left side is slid in.

Here they are both slid in. It's obvious you wouldn't slide them both at the same time, this was just for demonstration .

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Posted: Thursday, January 19, 2017 - 01:31 AM UTC

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This comment may seem trivial compared to the scope of the project you are doing, but excellent work on the fire extinguisher. To me it actually looks like real metal. What did you use to get such an effect on the extinguisher? Thanks for sharing your work on this machine it has been extremely educational and fun following for me.


It depends on what you mean , The gage was painted with Model Masters Chrome. If you mean the Label, that is a rub on decal from Archer Fine Transfers.
Regards.
Donald