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Armor/AFV: Large Scale
1/16 and Larger Armor Modeling
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Building the 1/16th. Jagdtiger from Trumpeter
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 08:39 PM UTC
Not too bad a fit on the left side.

The right side has a slightly bigger gap

The rear fenders will cover the gap between the rear plate and the sponson floors.
It's just test fitted here.

Bottom view.

That's all for now, next it's on to the Ammo.
Donald
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 09:48 PM UTC
What a beast do you have over there, nice pics, thanks
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2017 - 06:57 PM UTC
The Model Masters Chrome was what I was asking about. Thanks for the reply I will have to check that out color on my next extinguisher.
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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 02:02 AM UTC
Now on to the Ammo, I painted the shells first.
Don't glue the bases to all the shells as you will need 14 of them for the Sponson rack.


This base will go on the rest of them.

This is the rack for the left rear of the Sponson .

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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 02:09 AM UTC
The reason you don't use the end parts as the rack has flat spots where the rounds go, and the rounds with the bases won't fit.


Now for the Cartrige Cases.


I know that there are going to be some of you who say they should be painted, here is what I have found.


I have painted them a metalic aluminum color.
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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 02:19 AM UTC
I painted the powder end a light Field Grey.


The other end has some nice detailing unfortunately it can't be seen.


That's all for now, I need a nap.
Donald
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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 06:23 PM UTC
The Ammo install.
The floor box first.




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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 06:29 PM UTC
There's a really nice water can in the kit.



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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 06:33 PM UTC
Now to install the Ammo Box into the lower hull.

I slid one side in first like so.

Then spreading the sides of the hull slightly, inserted the other side.

There is a loose fit right now but it will tighten up later.
I didn't glue it down yet.
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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 06:42 PM UTC
Now for the Gun Mount.
Sam says it's wrong, but I think it is right for the 128mm Gun.
The one that he has in his build looks more correct for the 88mm gun that was fitted in a few of the Jagdtigers. You can't always go by what is in a Museum restoration.


You can't see much of the projectiles that are stored in its base.

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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 06:49 PM UTC
Now to mount it in the hull.

After placing it in position you can slide the ammo box up to its rear end.


There's a small notch on the front of the box that fits the tab on the back of the mount like below.



I didn't mean to insult you, Sam but I think that you are wrong on the Gun Mount.

That's all for today.
Donald
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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2017 - 02:09 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Now for the Gun Mount.
Sam says it's wrong, but I think it is right for the 128mm Gun.
The one that he has in his build looks more correct for the 88mm gun that was fitted in a few of the Jagdtigers. You can't always go by what is in a Museum restoration.
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Trumpeter used images of the prototype to detail their mount, and its 100% wrong for a production vehicle. The images and information I used came from UNRESTORED museum vehicles. Also, there was never an 88mm version of the Jagdtiger, its a myth!

What Trumpeter used for their gun mount:


The UNRESTORED Bovington Jagdtiger:


The UNRESTORED Aberdeen Jagdtiger:






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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2017 - 01:41 PM UTC

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I didn't mean to insult you, Sam but I think that you are wrong on the Gun Mount.

That's all for today.
Donald



Hi Donald - please explain how Im wrong with the gun mount. Im keen to hear how I got it wrong when I used images of unrestored actual vehicles, both the Aberdeen and Bovington ones. The images I posted clearly show that Trumpeter got it wrong. Im not insulted by any means, I'm just keen to hear what reasoning you use to justify saying I'm wrong.

Sam
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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2017 - 05:42 PM UTC

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Quoted Text


I didn't mean to insult you, Sam but I think that you are wrong on the Gun Mount.

That's all for today.
Donald



Hi Donald - please explain how Im wrong with the gun mount. Im keen to hear how I got it wrong when I used images of unrestored actual vehicles, both the Aberdeen and Bovington ones. The images I posted clearly show that Trumpeter got it wrong. Im not insulted by any means, I'm just keen to hear what reasoning you use to justify saying I'm wrong.

Sam



Hi Sam.
I've been going with what information that I've had available. You posted the pics. after this post, obviously Trumpeter screwed up big time especially on a kit with a list price of $400 U.S. dollars. If you had posted the pics. with your scratch built mount I wouldn't have said anything. On a side note without plans or a cutting diogram I doubt that anyone will try to do what you have done.
Regards
Donald
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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2017 - 05:47 PM UTC
Here is how I did the rear grease mount with fittings.
There are 2 parts from the Tiger II kit included in the kit. I removed them from the center braces and trimmed as shown.

I notched the ends as shown you could also just trim off the ends, maby that would have been better.

They fit just right between the Ammo Box and the sides.

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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2017 - 05:55 PM UTC
I built a small holder for the Water Can out of angle stock, I'm not sure if it is seposed to be there, but it's in the Pic.

Here's the Pic. I was talking about.

You can see it to the left of the Ammo Rack. Also note the depresions in the base of the rack, they are missing in the kit part that is why you have to leave the bases of the shells that you use here off.
The Water Can.

In this position the can may be tilted for pouring without having to remove it from its storage position.
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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2017 - 06:06 PM UTC
The Shell Rack just positioned, i'll glue it down once the upper hull is installed.




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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2017 - 06:11 PM UTC
The Gun Mount temporaily fitted.



Once again the Ammo from the museum I don't know how accurate it is.


I'm working on the other Ammo racks next. I'll let you know how they go together next.
Regards.
Donald
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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - 11:33 PM UTC
I have the Ammo Racks assembled painted & installed.

Here is how I did it, this is for the lerge one on the right side, you can do the same for the others.

The instructions give you a view of the back side and are very confusing .



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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - 11:37 PM UTC



Just test fitted here, had to remove the rounds and paint the racks.

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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - 11:44 PM UTC
All painted and installed.

On the left side I Installed the Water Can first then the Shells & finally the Propellant Charges .

I removed the Gun Mount.


I'll be working on the Gun next, I'm not shure how easy it will be to get it installed on the Mount so I figure it'll be easier if I don't have to deal with the Hull and everything at the same time.
I hope that this helps those of you planning on doing this build.
That's it for a while.
Donald
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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2017 - 08:47 PM UTC
I have the Gun Carriage assembled and painted, their's no major problems here just a lot of clean up and fitting.




I'm working on the Breach Block next, there's a lot of filling needed there.
That's all for today.
Donald
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Posted: Friday, January 27, 2017 - 08:13 PM UTC
I've been working on the Gun.
The Breech needs a lot of seam filling.



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Posted: Friday, January 27, 2017 - 08:21 PM UTC
The Breech Block doesn't Fit, it's to big and will need to be sanded to fit.


After a lot of sanding I got it to fit, then added the end plate.


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Posted: Friday, January 27, 2017 - 08:28 PM UTC




That's all for today
Donald