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Trees, shrubs, nature and animals.
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mountains & waterfalls
Rhemz
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Netherlands
Member Since: April 16, 2002
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Posted: Monday, June 23, 2003 - 07:46 AM UTC
Hello guys, I'm creating a mountain with a waterfall and over the waterfall a bridge with a tank crossing it. Now my question is about creating the mountain... can i just use rocks or is the best way creating it with plaster? Are there any dio's with a waterfall? I have "water effects" from "woodland" but I don't know really how to make a waterfall... does someone know it? or got a article about it? thanx guys for helping me!
Aniol
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Poznaz, Poland
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Posted: Monday, June 23, 2003 - 08:27 AM UTC
I have seen some nice rocks in pet shops. They are often used in aquariums, and they look nice. Good luck!==)
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Alabama, United States
Member Since: September 26, 2002
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Posted: Monday, June 23, 2003 - 08:42 AM UTC
This book has a step-by-step waterfall vignette. I highly recommend this book to anyone who wants to build convincing terrain.


Patrick
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Posted: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 12:03 AM UTC
You'ld be surprised what you can learn from other fields. I have read Model Railroading terrain books with great ideas, even doll-house books. The new Woodlands Scenics water products work as described, but stay away from the melt and pour pellets.
Scenerary and terrain are my favorite part of a diorama and I really am learning a lot about it. The railroad sources taught me to find a rock I like, make a rubber mold, then a plaster cast and I have a lightweight, perfect replica of a natural looking surface with no carving.
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Antwerpen, Belgium
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Posted: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 12:48 AM UTC
I have that Terrain modeling book and this is the waterfal that is in the book



I have scanned the pages (6) and put them on my providers site:

http://users.pandora.be/ronny.noben/modelbouw/terrein/

You can get them there, but I will not leave them there for long since (they are large files (un cropted) , so save them to your pc.
Rhemz
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Netherlands
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Posted: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 02:56 AM UTC
thanx guys!!!
Norseman
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Oslo, Norway
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Posted: Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:52 PM UTC
If the moutain section is big, you might consider using expansion foam (you know the yellow stuff that expands 100% and then hardens to a kind of foam) to create the inner mountain, and then cover that with plaster or papermache.

That way the diorama will not be so heavy...

Fritz
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Metro Manila, Philippines
Member Since: March 17, 2003
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Posted: Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:54 PM UTC
I've read an article about building mountains in model railroader feb 2002. This is just a summary because it's a really long process.

1) Stackpile foam "bricks" to the desired basic shape.
2) Carve/smooth out the pile to look like a natural mountain. Make sure it looks natural & smooth(I mean the seams between the bricks should not be seen.).
3) Plaster cloth makes the final surface.
4) Paint.
That seems like it.