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Armor/AFV: IDF [Israeli Defense Forces]
Armor and AFVs of the IDF army from 1947-today.
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AK Sinai Grey 1982 Q?
bison126
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Posted: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - 04:58 AM UTC
Hi all,
I have used AK Sinai Grey 1982 on my Shot Cal Gimel. I must say I'm surprised by the result.
Is this color reference any accurate? (I know it's a bit late to ask )

Here is a picture of the hull.


Olivier
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Posted: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - 05:01 AM UTC
Taking into account everyone's screen may be a little different, that color is WAY too dark. Try SAC Bomber Tan cut 50/50 with Header White, both by Testor's.

It yields this:



Humbrol Khaki Drill #72 is also very close.
BootsDMS
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Posted: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - 06:41 AM UTC
Olivier,

Mark Hazzard (posts here as "hazzradm") would know and may reply if he spots this; if not, you could always send him a PM. He is a very accomplished Israeli armour modeller and I am sure, will be able to advise.

Brian
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Posted: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - 07:27 AM UTC

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Olivier,

Mark Hazzard (posts here as "hazzradm") would know and may reply if he spots this; if not, you could always send him a PM. He is a very accomplished Israeli armour modeller and I am sure, will be able to advise.

Brian



Sorry - reference my last, Mark's callsign should read "hazzardm" (fingers clearly not fully connected to my brain!)
bison126
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Posted: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - 07:59 AM UTC
Robert, that was my first thought. It's too dark.

Brian, thank you for the input.

Olivier
bison126
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Posted: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - 09:47 PM UTC
I added a good deal of XF-57 Buff to the AK color to get it lighter.
I guess it is better now for the 1982 time frame.



Olivier
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Posted: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - 10:07 PM UTC
The AK color shade is almost spot on for the time period BUT one has to take into account the sand/dust that accumulated over the vehicles as they moved through the terain. That is why the second paintjob looks more "realistic in scale" for a weathered vehicle.

The IDF gave up on sand shaded paint in the mid '70s and went for a more grayish/greenish paint.

You could have continued with only the AK paint as a base color and use filters and weathering to get the end result.

The sandy painted vehicle posted though is way off, looks almost like a 6 Days War vehicle
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Posted: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - 10:11 PM UTC

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I guess it is better now for the 1982 time frame.



Agreed. The current IDF scheme is a slightly revised version of the one used in the early '80s. I have the impression that the original color in the '80s had a significant grey tint to it. AK's offering probably matches factory-fresh color. Taking scale-effect and fading into account, it should be about 20-30% lighter. I think you've nailed it.

bison126
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Posted: Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 02:54 AM UTC
Thank you for the feedback.
I'll continue with this shade. I intend to dust the tank quite a lot so it could be even lighter after the weathering.

Olivier