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Mannschaftstransportwagen Magirus ARW
Neonik
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Posted: Friday, July 12, 2019 - 02:41 AM UTC
Greetings! I am a lucky man. Now I have one copy of Leadwarrior's limited edition of full resin kit. This is Mannschaftstransportwagen Magirus ARW . Very rare and beautiful armored car. I will try to make some corrections with welds and extra details on a hull. I hope it will be interesting.




















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Posted: Friday, July 12, 2019 - 03:23 AM UTC
You got me hooked already. Very interesting subject. I especially like the design of this vehicle.

Kind regards,

Robert Jan
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Posted: Friday, July 12, 2019 - 04:37 AM UTC
Looks like it came straight out of a Tintin-cartoon.....😳
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Posted: Friday, July 12, 2019 - 07:07 AM UTC
Interesting, the first time I have seen this! Will follow your build.
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Posted: Saturday, July 13, 2019 - 12:16 AM UTC
Excellent project - what's happening to your other armoured car?
Neonik
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Posted: Sunday, July 14, 2019 - 07:29 AM UTC

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You got me hooked already. Very interesting subject. I especially like the design of this vehicle.

Kind regards,

Robert Jan



Hello,Robert!
The design is outstanding! Like Ferrari or Porsche but for war purpose
Neonik
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Posted: Sunday, July 14, 2019 - 07:31 AM UTC

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Interesting, the first time I have seen this! Will follow your build.


I hope it will be interesting for you. I will do my best with extra details as usual.
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Posted: Sunday, July 14, 2019 - 07:32 AM UTC

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Excellent project - what's happening to your other armoured car?


Hello,Tim! It is ok. I have lack of time for taking photos and no time for painting at all. Now it's waiting for final pre-paint photoset.
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Posted: Monday, July 15, 2019 - 01:39 AM UTC
Nice display! What colour should the ARW be standard panzer grey?
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Posted: Monday, July 15, 2019 - 01:57 AM UTC

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Nice display! What colour should the ARW be standard panzer grey?



I know that German AFV in 20-30 years of XX century were painted in RAL 6006 Feldgrau.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 - 05:30 AM UTC
I see welds on this photos. So I have decided to make them. It was a difficult decision because it is quite hard to do welds in a such places. On a hull I make some grooves for putty.





I've decided to glue some plastic below and cut off a little stripes of plastic which would be filled by putty later.











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Posted: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 - 07:31 AM UTC

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Greetings! I am a lucky man. Now I have one copy of Leadwarrior's limited edition of full resin kit. This is Mannschaftstransportwagen Magirus ARW . Very rare and beautiful armored car. I will try to make some corrections with welds and extra details on a hull. I hope it will be interesting.























Hello, Artyom!

THIS is an EXCELLENT CHOICE of a not very well-known Armored Vehicle! It DOES look like a Military Version of a Sports Car!!! I will be following this build with great interest, as I did your last one not so long ago!

Artyom, I see two different types of Wheels in your photos- Which style are you going to use?

This is interesting, INTERESTING!!! Thank You for not building "another" Panther or Tiger like too many other modelers do!!!
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Posted: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 - 05:38 PM UTC

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Greetings! I am a lucky man. Now I have one copy of Leadwarrior's limited edition of full resin kit. This is Mannschaftstransportwagen Magirus ARW . Very rare and beautiful armored car. I will try to make some corrections with welds and extra details on a hull. I hope it will be interesting.























Hello, Artyom!

THIS is an EXCELLENT CHOICE of a not very well-known Armored Vehicle! It DOES look like a Military Version of a Sports Car!!! I will be following this build with great interest, as I did your last one not so long ago!

Artyom, I see two different types of Wheels in your photos- Which style are you going to use?

This is interesting, INTERESTING!!! Thank You for not building "another" Panther or Tiger like too many other modelers do!!!



Hi,Dennis! I usually build unusual vehicles. That's true. I like to know something new. There are many unique models on the market but people still building Tigers and T-34s. That's amazing.

I will use wheels from the kit (first and second photos). Second type are from prototype (third photo).

I really enjoy your words! Thank you! I am very happy that this build and armored car are interesting!
Dioramartin
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Posted: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 - 11:38 PM UTC
For sure another refreshingly rare subject, designed around 1928 but the Depression prevented further development and by the time Hitler had borrowed enough money to resume in the mid 1930s the 231 was considered cheaper & more advanced. One thing Artyom maybe its just the lighting in some photos but it looks like the curved edge along the sides of the hull is much softer in real life than the kits? The difference is best seen between the 2nd and 3rd photos in your most recent update.
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Posted: Friday, July 19, 2019 - 01:42 AM UTC

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For sure another refreshingly rare subject, designed around 1928 but the Depression prevented further development and by the time Hitler had borrowed enough money to resume in the mid 1930s the 231 was considered cheaper & more advanced. One thing Artyom maybe its just the lighting in some photos but it looks like the curved edge along the sides of the hull is much softer in real life than the kits? The difference is best seen between the 2nd and 3rd photos in your most recent update.



Yes,you are right. Funny that they have tested Magirus in USSR near Kazan. And almost all photos of only one armed vehicle are from Russia. Amazing.

Hull is very difficult. I see the little difference but I have nothing to do with that.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 - 12:29 AM UTC
I have had to sacrifice historicity of air intake. I've decided to make it my way. Unfortunateluy no historical photos of this joint at all. So my version is possible I think. More welds to come.











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Posted: Thursday, July 25, 2019 - 11:35 PM UTC
Some WIP. Almost all extra details i do by myself. It's more attractive and all those details in resin have quite poor detalization.









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Posted: Thursday, August 01, 2019 - 06:19 AM UTC
My latest progress with welds and copper. Still more work ahead but I enjoy the process

















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Posted: Thursday, August 01, 2019 - 09:54 PM UTC
Beautiful work as usual have you ever considered a career making jewellery, or did any of your ancestors work for Faberge? Those boxes are gems
Neonik
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Posted: Thursday, August 01, 2019 - 10:49 PM UTC

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Beautiful work as usual have you ever considered a career making jewellery, or did any of your ancestors work for Faberge? Those boxes are gems



Thank you,Tim! I didn't think about it. Perhaps, I should try myself
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Posted: Friday, August 02, 2019 - 04:41 AM UTC
What an interesting vehicle. This is a beautiful work of art and your craftsmanship is amazing. I can't wait to see it finished.

PS:I still build Tigers and Panthers....I love them...but I do appreciate obscure and interesting vehicles such as this.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 - 08:07 PM UTC

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What an interesting vehicle. This is a beautiful work of art and your craftsmanship is amazing. I can't wait to see it finished.

PS:I still build Tigers and Panthers....I love them...but I do appreciate obscure and interesting vehicles such as this.



Hello,Jeff! Indeed. This is very interesting vehicle. Amazing fact that this vehicle was tested by Germans in USSR near Kazan. All photos has been taken there.
I like to build such thing and I hope my future biulds will be interesting too.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 - 11:13 PM UTC

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For sure another refreshingly rare subject, designed around 1928 but the Depression prevented further development and by the time Hitler had borrowed enough money to resume in the mid 1930s the 231 was considered cheaper & more advanced. One thing Artyom maybe its just the lighting in some photos but it looks like the curved edge along the sides of the hull is much softer in real life than the kits? The difference is best seen between the 2nd and 3rd photos in your most recent update.



Yes,you are right. Funny that they have tested Magirus in USSR near Kazan. And almost all photos of only one armed vehicle are from Russia. Amazing.

Hull is very difficult. I see the little difference but I have nothing to do with that.



It seems that there was two different hull types being tested.

The rounded one:


The slightly more box shaped one:


Lead Warriors kit (the boxy type).



Examples:
1. how the headlights fit into the front end
2. how the hull rounds inwards, or does not, between the wheels,
3. two different types of wheels (boxy hull has spoked wheels).

The Lead Warrior kit represents the boxy type.
/ Robin
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Posted: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 - 05:59 AM UTC

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For sure another refreshingly rare subject, designed around 1928 but the Depression prevented further development and by the time Hitler had borrowed enough money to resume in the mid 1930s the 231 was considered cheaper & more advanced. One thing Artyom maybe its just the lighting in some photos but it looks like the curved edge along the sides of the hull is much softer in real life than the kits? The difference is best seen between the 2nd and 3rd photos in your most recent update.



Yes,you are right. Funny that they have tested Magirus in USSR near Kazan. And almost all photos of only one armed vehicle are from Russia. Amazing.

Hull is very difficult. I see the little difference but I have nothing to do with that.



It seems that there was two different hull types being tested.

The rounded one:


The slightly more box shaped one:


Lead Warriors kit (the boxy type).



Examples:
1. how the headlights fit into the front end
2. how the hull rounds inwards, or does not, between the wheels,
3. two different types of wheels (boxy hull has spoked wheels).

The Lead Warrior kit represents the boxy type.
/ Robin




Hello, Robin! Thank you for information and your attention. I agree with you. I think photos without turret were taken in Germany. It was just experimental chassis. After your words I have mentioned the difference you was talking about. I was surprised. I don't know what to do with that. So I continue my work with this kit more carefully.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 - 06:09 AM UTC
What you could do is to take a photo of the kit hull from the same angles as the original photos and compare the rounding of the hull.
I get the impression that the kit hull is fairly accurate in shape but it is difficult to compare when the angles and the lighting is so different ...
/ Robin