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Armor and AFVs of the IDF army from 1947-today.
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Merkava Mk.4M w/Trophy APS (Meng-1/35th)
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Posted: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 - 05:28 PM UTC
Lovely work on your Merk 4M!
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Posted: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 - 04:37 PM UTC
It's coming along nicely, glad that you are back on the bench with this project.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 - 12:01 PM UTC
Took a few months off this build to work a group build project on another model site. That has since wrapped up and the Merekava is back on the bench. Here are a couple of Pics of where I left off...getting close to finishing this one too.





So let the fun begin anew
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Posted: Monday, July 22, 2019 - 05:12 AM UTC
I did give that a shot. Unfortunately the barrel was twisted and warped along both axis. I managed to get some of it worked out but it just didn't look right...it seems to droop a bit.
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Posted: Monday, July 22, 2019 - 04:45 AM UTC
Just curious, I don't know what you tried but would some hot water and a little bending worked to straighten out the barrel?
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Posted: Monday, July 22, 2019 - 03:03 AM UTC
Thanks for stopping in Greg,

The Turret basket is still a work in progress so once I finish it up I'll post a pic of it.

As for the Legend barrel, if mine was not warped so badly I would have used it for sure. The detail is a step or two above the kit one mostly in the area of the sleeve clamps are better and of course no seam line to deal with. I sure hope yours comes in better shape then the one I got.

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Posted: Monday, July 22, 2019 - 02:06 AM UTC
I have the kit and the same resin baskets as you so I am interested in how you finish off your turret basket. It looks great so far. I have the Legend barrel on backorder as magic models is not a company my vendors carry. Other than being warped was the legend part well made?
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Posted: Monday, July 22, 2019 - 12:03 AM UTC
Work continues...though rather slowly
Closing in on finishing up the turret and started work on a simple display base.

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Comments are always welcome...as usual and Thanks for stopping by for a look-see
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Posted: Monday, June 24, 2019 - 02:27 AM UTC


Hey Eric, it's Bruce! Is it me, or does that turret-top look like a star wars space ship?
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Posted: Friday, June 21, 2019 - 12:36 AM UTC
Will the Merkava is back on the bench... ...Just couldn't keep away from it.

Not a whole lot happening. Started adding all the doodads on the turret. Got the kit turret basket together, I'll be covering it later with lead foil or some such. And finished up the barrel, not the greatest but it looks the part.





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Posted: Monday, June 10, 2019 - 01:33 PM UTC
Just a thought. Why not install the lower two resin baskets and use the kits upper basket. Use the lead foil from a wine bottle that you can also use to celebrate when you finish the kit! No one can see inside the basket so you can fill it with "stuff" and cover it with the foil. What would Shepard Payne do? Get back on that horse cowboy!
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Posted: Monday, June 10, 2019 - 01:02 PM UTC

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Sounds like you have made excellent progress Curt. I eagerly await pictures!!

I pulled the my Merk out this morning... ...and was looking it over...I just can't seem to walk away from it.




Eric, I understand...the Merkava 4, and particulalry, the 4M, is a really cool tank. I think you ought to just forget about the resin 'full baskets', and continue on with your build. You don't need that resin stuff. I'll be happy to give you some ideas on how to proceed without the resin parts. You can surely do it. You've done a great job thus far!! No point in not completing it, especially based on the really nice work you've already done.
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Posted: Monday, June 10, 2019 - 07:12 AM UTC
I am still amazed that they put torsion bars in a model of a tank that does not have them, just to put some resistance on the suspension arms?
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Posted: Monday, June 10, 2019 - 05:43 AM UTC
Sounds like you have made excellent progress Curt. I eagerly await pictures!!

I pulled the my Merk out this morning... ...and was looking it over...I just can't seem to walk away from it.

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Posted: Sunday, June 09, 2019 - 02:59 PM UTC
Eric,

I think your build looks great, thus far! I've been making lots of progress on mine. The hull and turret are painted in their main colors, with slight highlights to simulate faded panels. The running gear, including road wheels, and tracks, are weathered and installed. I've put on the decals, and have coated all of the tank in a satin sheen, to more easily begin the panel lines and oil dot weathering. Will take some photos soon, and will post. I've got a huge amount of work to go, though, but looking forward to it, with lots of reddish dust to cover huge areas per the photos of the Vulcan tank that I have...
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Posted: Thursday, June 06, 2019 - 07:20 AM UTC
Hay guys, Thanks for keeping this thread alive
Though it is still on hold it is calling to me in my dreams...or is that nightmares...anywho, I just might be back to this sooner then I thought.

For Curt; I have seen the Hull Tex product for sale on a few websites. I am real interested in seeing how your application came out. BTW I also saw that Ammo by Mig has released three new anti-skid products much like the one I used...might have to look into them as well.

For John and Dennis; Undoubtedly aftermarket goodies are awesome and I love looking at them as much as the next person. I don't feel like I sux as a model hobbyist but I'm definitely no Rembrandt. While I like to challenge myself and understand that Failure is often the true teacher. I need to be more realistic with setting goals that are more inline with my skills while improving them as I go. And most important...to HAVE FUN since this is a hobby after all.

And here is where I left off...


I have since started a new build project which I'll be post here soon. But I've kept the Aftermarket and goals in check.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 04, 2019 - 01:47 AM UTC

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Hello Everyone!

It has been several years since I last posted a build here so I felt it was time to do so again.

Here is a photo of the base kit and some extra goodies I plan to include for this build.




First order of business for me is to assemble the major hull and turret components and identify any fit issues. Of course being a fairly new kit there were no issues.





After the major component assemblies checked out I then mounted them to their respective building boards, one for hull and one for the turret. The building boards help minimize direct handling and facilitate safe storage and transporting while this kit is being built.



THANKS for stopping in for a look and as always comments are welcome.



Well Eric, I pretty much have all the aftermarket I can stand now to compliment my Merk IV. I even bought aftermarket whether they are meant for Hobbyboss or Academy kits (I manipulate other proprietary aftermarket all the time to fit what I want it too). Still watching your thread as well. Now, all I have to do, is find/get the time to build my Merk IV!!



Hi John, and Everyone Else!

I think John has the right idea as far as any after-market doo-dads are concerned. You use what you can, where you can. This concept also goes for "kit-bashing". If kit "a" has a "better" representation of a certain part or an assembly than kit "b" does, you can bet your last dollar that Dennis is going to use the "better" stuff...

In my own building processes, I "cross-pollinate" PE, resin goodies and parts from other kits ALL OF THE TIME, with no qualms, whatsoever...

PS- Eric: Have you any photos of your latest progress with which to "up-date" us all..?
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Posted: Tuesday, June 04, 2019 - 12:27 AM UTC

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Hello Everyone!

It has been several years since I last posted a build here so I felt it was time to do so again.

Here is a photo of the base kit and some extra goodies I plan to include for this build.




First order of business for me is to assemble the major hull and turret components and identify any fit issues. Of course being a fairly new kit there were no issues.





After the major component assemblies checked out I then mounted them to their respective building boards, one for hull and one for the turret. The building boards help minimize direct handling and facilitate safe storage and transporting while this kit is being built.



THANKS for stopping in for a look and as always comments are welcome.



Well Eric, I pretty much have all the aftermarket I can stand now to compliment my Merk IV. I even bought aftermarket whether they are meant for Hobbyboss or Academy kits (I manipulate other proprietary aftermarket all the time to fit what I want it too). Still watching your thread as well. Now, all I have to do, is find/get the time to build my Merk IV!!
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Posted: Monday, June 03, 2019 - 03:50 AM UTC

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By the way, I’ve now gotten to see, for the first time, what the Hull Tex product, under primer and paint, actually looks like. It is interesting. There is absolutely no way to miss where the texture has been placed. I used it at the 4 corners, on the horizontal parts, of the hull. I would say it is very effective, and REALLY easy to notice, as it creates almost a ‘black hole’ with respect to reflection of light (or rather, absorption). It definitely makes the molded in/on anti-skid look like there is nothing there, in comparison. It is very uniform, and I will, absolutely, be using this product on my Takom Merkava I Hybrid, which does not have any anti skid at all in the molding.



Curt: Stands to reason that the Hull-Tex stuff will create a much-deader surface then will any molded-on non-slip - you are applying an actual grit and those particles are each a defined and irregular - relative - to - surface item w/ different reflection at any given angle. I get that exact same effect - my DIY non-slip creates a very dead surface. Given as many of the real things appear to have some-to-lots of thin, worn, and scraped-away patches on their non-slip, and we would likely want to see these "inconsistencies", the applied non-slip approaches seem to be much more capable of producing a realistic-looking surface inclusive of thinner patches, etc.

Looking forward to seeing a pic or... of your results!

Bob
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Posted: Monday, June 03, 2019 - 12:02 AM UTC
Eric, I don’t recall when you said you’d be back from your vacation, but I did want to let you know that I’ve been making some progress, albeit slow, on my Merkava 4M. All of the big parts are together. I had the running gear (suspension, wheels and tracks) all done and the turret, too. I primed all of it with white Stylynrez, and did some preshading of panel lines with Tamiya Hull Red, and then, after much masking of the running gear, painted the tank with my mixture of Tamiya colors. I was reasonably pleased. No pictures yet, but I’ll get some. Also, I was really excited to receive my first order of the Wilder water based weathering stuff, which comes in many different colors and textures (has bigger ‘stones’ and smaller, etc.). I was happy to see it is offered in ‘red desert’, which is what I need for my 4M tank, as almost all the 4M tank photos I have show dust, dirt and some mud, in red soil, covering large area of the tanks in the pictures. I tried it yesterday afternoon, and it worked great! As of this morning, all dried, with little change in appearance. I haven’t had the chance to check on the Wilder claim that these products can be reactivated with water. Will check later this evening.

I’ll also try to take some pictures. As of now, there is no weathering done, except for the road wheels, tracks (Fruil) and the suspension, which I needed to do before the side skirts are glued in place. Outside of dust and dirt, there is not as much chipping and rust on these IDF compared to other modern tanks (presumably, the IDF crews pay more attention to vehicle maintenance) so not as much weathering of that type to do.

By the way, I’ve now gotten to see, for the first time, what the Hull Tex product, under primer and paint, actually looks like. It is interesting. There is absolutely no way to miss where the texture has been placed. I used it at the 4 corners, on the horizontal parts, of the hull. I would say it is very effective, and REALLY easy to notice, as it creates almost a ‘black hole’ with respect to reflection of light (or rather, absorption). It definitely makes the molded in/on anti-skid look like there is nothing there, in comparison. It is very uniform, and I will, absolutely, be using this product on my Takom Merkava I Hybrid, which does not have any anti skid at all in the molding.
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Posted: Thursday, May 23, 2019 - 01:50 PM UTC
First of all, Eric, I'm so sorry that you had such problems! I agree with you that the kit tracks are not great, which is why I used the Fruil tracks, and I use aftermarket tracks for almost all my AFV models. I've found only the Rye Field M1A1/2 tracks as really well done OEM individual link tracks, and even those need quite a delicate touch on use of glue. The Fruils work and look fantastic, especially after using the AK Burnishing Fluid on 'em!

I'm really sorry that you got frustrated, though I agree with you that if you've reached the level of frustration, by all means, put the model aside. It SHOULD be FUN! That said, I had no issues at all with the turret basket on my Meng M4. Albeit, this is NOT the Meng resin basket, the additional one for big dollars from Meng, modeling a fully enclosed one, that Eric used. In fact, I was thrilled that all the kit parts went together so well, including the photoetch bottom pieces. The only parts that were a bit dicey were the very thin plastic 'rods' that are mounted on the exterior of the basket, and they were very delicate and difficult to remove from their sprues. But it can be done, if you work very slowly and carefully. But I did replace the two smallest ones with wire as those I could not get cleanly off the sprue.

Eric, if you want to commiserate, or just talk about your build, please let me know and I'll send you my number. I know it can be frustrating. I myself have trashed a few models in sheer frustration, but if I can help, by all means, let me know!

One last aside. I wrote to VMS, as I'd noted that they were selling extra individual texture, but not extra adhesive, and the adhesive is what I'm likely to run out of first. I've now learned that you can get individual adhesive! Great work, VMS, and thank you!
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Posted: Thursday, May 23, 2019 - 05:47 AM UTC

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Just an update...

I started working on the Meng resin turret basket and after about 2 and half hours of pure frustration I moving this project to my SoS (Shelf-of-Shame). For whatever reasons this kit had fought me the entire time to the point that there is just zero fun left in it...and it a hobby after all.

I'll leave off here with a couple of thoughts...

A. This is a great kit that really out of Box except for the tracks. It does not need any AM items other than a new set of tracks. I mentioned earlier the tracks are the worst part of this kit as the design and engineering just plan...sux.

B. I need to take more time in making proper choices of what AM products to use and when. And realistically understand my skill level.

I feel I can save this project and before an doing anything that can't be reversed it is going on the SoS and hopefully I'll come back to it movitied and able to enjoy it once again.

Thanks for following along everyone.




I feel for you, Eric. Sorry to see it headed to the SoS, but... But I think you are exhibiting wisdom and solid thinking. Skip the frustration and do something else. I've learned to step back and try to avoid the "Concorde Fallacy" when things just are not working out on a build. It's a hobby. Have fun with it and enjoy what you are doing. When it goes bad, put it aside and do something else. I have a "shelf of shame", too. But there are soooo many cool kits of cool subjects out there, I don't feel very bad about sliding a troubled build onto it. There's other stuff I will find more satisfying just waiting for my attention and its turn! For you, too.

Whenever you pull this one back out, I'll look in on it. I'd love to see what comes of your project. And who knows? Maybe as other Merk projects move along, you'll regain desire to get on with your's. Meanwhile, Model On and enjoy the hobby!

Bob
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Posted: Thursday, May 23, 2019 - 05:39 AM UTC
In a nutshell the resin basket doesn't fit.

The basket sides are about 2mm short and do not fit into the kit holes. Then the bottom of the basket has a bow in it with about 1.5 to 2mm deflection and is 2mm to wide to fit into the resin sides.

I can use the kit parts and lead foil to enclose the basket...but it's just one thing after another it seems so I need to take a break from it. Almost all the Issues I'm having are self-inflicted...other then the tracks.
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Posted: Thursday, May 23, 2019 - 05:15 AM UTC

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I started working on the Meng resin turret basket and after about 2 and half hours of pure frustration I moving this project to my SoS (Shelf-of-Shame).



What went wrong?

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Posted: Thursday, May 23, 2019 - 04:33 AM UTC
Just an update...

I started working on the Meng resin turret basket and after about 2 and half hours of pure frustration I moving this project to my SoS (Shelf-of-Shame). For whatever reasons this kit had fought me the entire time to the point that there is just zero fun left in it...and it a hobby after all.

I'll leave off here with a couple of thoughts...

A. This is a great kit that really out of Box except for the tracks. It does not need any AM items other than a new set of tracks. I mentioned earlier the tracks are the worst part of this kit as the design and engineering just plan...sux.

B. I need to take more time in making proper choices of what AM products to use and when. And realistically understand my skill level.

I feel I can save this project and before an doing anything that can't be reversed it is going on the SoS and hopefully I'll come back to it movitied and able to enjoy it once again.

Thanks for following along everyone.