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Tamiya 1/350 Bismarck
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Posted: Sunday, September 02, 2018 - 10:42 PM UTC
Hi all I got this last Xmas and although I don't get much modelling time these days I wanted to start it but as always with a difference I want to depict her during the battle as she's sinking and at the bottom of the sea, all at the same time.

I realise she didn't break up and apart from 35 meters of the stern is still in one piece on the bottom.

She landed practically on top of an undersea volcano which erupted and she slid down the side as the volcano erupted leaving her laying level on the seabed with her stern mostly covered.

My problem is do I play with the historical facts and cut her into 3 sections to depict what I want or is there a way of depicting the whole thing whist keeping her whole.
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Posted: Friday, September 07, 2018 - 07:17 AM UTC
Hi all well I think I'm just going to go with the wreck dio ( will need a fair bit of scratch building but I'm up for it) 

As an interesting angle on size and shape look at this.





She was a tad bigger than the KGV but almost identical in shape.

Anyway made a start on painting her





Not going to go overboard with the painting as most of it won't be seen.

I must say I'm going to really enjoy this as I love doing rusty things (for those who don't know me i love doing cars and motorcycles, which I usually do with a fair bit of ware and tear)

As per this example.

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Posted: Sunday, September 09, 2018 - 04:06 AM UTC
Hi all before risking the actual ship to my first attempts at an underwater dio I tried an experiment does this look convincing took me ages (well 15 mins) I'm quite happy with it.

I'm trying to get it to look like this
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Bismarck+wreck+images&oq=Bismarck+wreck+images&aqs=chrome..69i57j0.18740j0j4&client=tablet-android-samsung&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgdii=pbRtbdQco7K-dM:&imgrc=BMkjTpW9uTYKDM:







I photographed the process encase anyone is interested.
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Posted: Sunday, September 09, 2018 - 01:08 PM UTC
Ken,

Looks to be in the right direction. Looking at those photos of the Bismark seems to me there is a lot more rust and rusticales then deterioration.

Mark
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Posted: Monday, September 10, 2018 - 10:58 PM UTC
Hi Ken

watching with interest. Am curious to see how you go turning her into a wreck.

Personally I'd go for a more historical arrangement but then use artistic license in terms of how broken down by the elements she is.

Interesting to see both KGV Bismarck overlayed like that too. Would be interesting to see what KGV would have looked like had they not been restricted by treaty

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Posted: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 - 01:14 AM UTC
I like your experimental result - it looks to be on the right track.

It is interesting to compare the Bismarck and KGV hulls -

They really were quite similar... but the eye is drawn to the longer, more delicate stern of the German vessel, which of course was a source of problems with many Kriegsmarine designs...
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Posted: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 - 07:33 AM UTC
Hi all drilled out a couple of the big turrets bases and added the traversing gear to the inside of one of them (still got to deepen the shaft and add some internal detail)I'm only planing on making the base a little larger than the model, should I still add the missing turrets and other superstructure that came off even though they were found a long way from the wreck.





Encase anyone thinks I've stopped working on the KGV I've not it's just the part I'm working on now has 4 pompoms and the PE takes ages.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 - 08:17 AM UTC
Looks great so far. Keep up the good work!!
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Posted: Saturday, September 15, 2018 - 06:40 AM UTC
Hi all I had to drill out the lower deck to allow for the details I have to add as the turrets won't be there.



And gave the decking it's first coat of paint





As you can see the traversing gear needs a bit of work 
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Posted: Monday, September 17, 2018 - 07:14 AM UTC
Hi all started on the base 







I've tried to get the seabed undulations as like the photos as I can, still got some fine tweaking to do to it yet.

I've drawn some of the damage on the hull and decking I'm thinking of using a soldering iron to inflict it.





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Posted: Monday, September 17, 2018 - 08:04 AM UTC
Hi Ken,

looking good so far, the seabed is great.

cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, September 17, 2018 - 06:21 PM UTC
I am looking forward to see how you depict the damage on the hull. Should be an interesting challenge.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 - 12:48 AM UTC
Ken,

I must admit, I've been watching with perverse pleasure as you brutalize that beautiful kit!



Keep up the good work!
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Posted: Saturday, September 22, 2018 - 06:14 AM UTC
Hi all made a start on the damage, there is a load to add but I think it's an ok start.





I'm afraid no more modelling for a week as off on hols.
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Posted: Sunday, September 23, 2018 - 09:30 AM UTC
nice progress here Ken

that's a good looking Titanic you have in the background too!
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Posted: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 - 07:46 AM UTC
Hi Russell not touched that in about 4 yrs, it sits there on the shelf of doom, every time i touch it something breaks.
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Posted: Friday, September 28, 2018 - 12:16 AM UTC

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Hi Russell not touched that in about 4 yrs, it sits there on the shelf of doom, every time i touch it something breaks.



sounds like something I'd do Ken
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Posted: Sunday, October 07, 2018 - 06:12 AM UTC
Hi all started on rusting her, still loads of crud to add but I think it's a good starting point.







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Posted: Monday, October 08, 2018 - 10:46 PM UTC
yer, this is looking good! Lots of silt, crud and gunge!

Bring it on!
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Posted: Tuesday, October 09, 2018 - 06:59 AM UTC
Hi all added some salt then a light grey wash to kill some of the colour, then knock some of the salt off add another thin sandy wash, knock some more salt off then a thin black wash. I feel it's getting there now.













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Posted: Friday, October 12, 2018 - 07:46 AM UTC
Hi all can you guess what this will be.





Started on a background



Put a blue whale in it which I've drawn to scale just to show how big the wreck is, i realise it don't look that great but I'm going to put dirty blue wash over the background so that should make it fade out a bit.





I'm really enjoying this build. Looking forward to my birthday and my next project (not a ship)
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Posted: Friday, October 12, 2018 - 11:04 AM UTC
Sweet, really liking the whale it gives every thing scale.

Mark
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Posted: Saturday, October 13, 2018 - 06:09 AM UTC
What Mark said,

Lots of depth in the paint job.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Saturday, October 13, 2018 - 06:35 AM UTC
Hi all well I thought I could use this as the submersible used to light and film her, unfortunately it is totally out of scale so i will have to find something else, although I see that the effect will work quite well.









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Posted: Saturday, October 13, 2018 - 02:55 PM UTC
Ken, the submersible idea is great and if you get the right scale it will be a winner. Maybe you could have two of them floating around the kit.

cheers
Michael