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Church belfry
TanksForTheMemory
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Posted: Monday, August 27, 2018 - 10:32 AM UTC
Thanks Cheyenne.

Only time will tell if I make it in time for Telford - but that's my aim!

I also used Diorama Debris roof tiles moulds. The one you used for your ridge tiles and this one for the rest:

1:35 Scale Spanish Barrel Roof Tiles Mould (1350047)

To my knowledge, this is the only way to make these tiles in the authentic manner out of real terracotta plaster. I tried one of these moulds and, after a bit of practice, it worked very well. But it was very time-consuming. By a stroke of luck I happened to mention my dilemma to someone at a model show and - hey presto! - he came up with a supply of ready-cast tiles (I believe made from the same moulds) at a very reasonable price. Let's just say that I was a very lucky guy because - as you will already know - I needed hundreds of the things..!

Having said that, I think that your decision to use the ridge tiles (albeit slightly pared down) makes sense because a) that way you use less and b) they look more 'in scale' for your (huge) size of church.

I look forward to you finishing your wonderful project as well...
cheyenne
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Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2018 - 09:25 PM UTC
Thanks Tim , unfortunately my roof tiles are cast by me with a mold made by dioramadebris where I can only cast nine tiles at a time , then they need to be shaped with a file as the mold is for cap/ridge tiles .
I love dioramadebris products [ just a customer ] and a lot of their molds were used in the build along with scratch built everything except the bells . I found mine at Michaels craft store .

Oh and good luck getting to Telford .
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Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2018 - 10:58 AM UTC
Very nicely done... it turns out that we have both been working on a belfry in 1/35.

Mine is very definitely in Italy. The bells were a pain to find - until I thought to look on ship modelling websites.

And don't start me on the tiles (mine are cast in terracotta plaster, although most of them, thankfully, not by me!)

cheyenne
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Posted: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 - 08:54 PM UTC
Jerry , Maarten , thanks guys .
Tim thanks man , the flooring is cut stone , the middle floor is weathered but I need to dust and powder the top deck .
Everton thanks man , everything is hand made except the bells and some bits of chain .
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Posted: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 - 08:05 AM UTC

Our fantastic job
Everything was handmade ???
Or have you bought it ready ???
Congratulations on the assembly.
Big hug
Dioramartin
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Posted: Monday, July 16, 2018 - 03:22 AM UTC
Superb progress, in those close-ups it looks indistinguishable from the real thing which is the highest compliment I can come up with. Structural query - will the upper & middle storeys be resting on masonry/flagstone floors? Hope you’re getting over the tile-o-mania
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Posted: Friday, July 13, 2018 - 12:44 AM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 - 01:17 AM UTC
Nice work as usual. The colors,once again,are spot on IMHO,
J
cheyenne
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Posted: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 - 07:57 AM UTC
Edoardo , Tim , Jerry , thanks guys .
I swear I'm seeing these tiles in my sleep !!!

































































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Posted: Friday, June 15, 2018 - 01:37 AM UTC
Very very nice. Perfect color as well IMHO,
J
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Posted: Friday, June 15, 2018 - 12:40 AM UTC
Those understated cracked ones just elevate this…through the roof. Superb craftsmanship as usual
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Posted: Thursday, June 14, 2018 - 05:04 PM UTC
beautiful update as always!
make sure to overlap a bit the tiles on the hedge!
ciao
edo
cheyenne
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Posted: Thursday, June 14, 2018 - 03:15 AM UTC
Far from nearly done but I wanted to do a small update cause this is gonna take a while .
The different absorbing rate of the plaster makes one coat of craft store terra cotta color paint a done deal .
No need to work at darks and lights to get that terra cotta color meld .
Still needs the rest of this sides tiles and a wash and she'll be good to go .


















cheyenne
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Posted: Saturday, June 09, 2018 - 12:19 AM UTC
Thanks Chris , the original ref pic is of a Russian church .
Early on in the build I was undecided as to where and what type of architecture this would develop into .
I liked the arch idea in the ref pic and just went from there .
I had decided on an Italian scene after adding the fancy scrolly embellishments so mission accomplished with you thinking Italian .
With the half round terra cotta tiles it can kinda be pretty much be only Italian .
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Posted: Friday, June 08, 2018 - 11:04 PM UTC
Awesome work! It looks like it could be in Europe but I'm not so sure about Russia. I picture it in an Italian mountain village.
cheyenne
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Posted: Friday, June 08, 2018 - 10:30 PM UTC
Thanks Jerry , tumble weeds eh , maybe we're on " double secret probation , whatever that is " .



Paul thanks man , it actually is very heavy it's all solid plaster , had to use Locktite to adhere the arches to the columns and then reinforce the tops with basswood so I could pick it up as one piece .

Mike thanks man !!!

Tim thanks man , don't need a harness , Hogwarts school of roofing .

Edoardo thanks man , no small entrance , it was actually meant to be the top of a dormer , everyone thought it was a entrance .
That was a blunder on my part as to not make it look as such .
JGphins had the solution though which I am grateful for , .... tree tops to give it that top third of a building look .

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Posted: Friday, June 08, 2018 - 05:11 PM UTC
great update as always!
i was wondering if you are going to keep the small entrance I saw inthe first picures of this wonderful build.
i ask because the roof tiles are different, and may be you would consider to update those to what you are doing now...
ciao
edo
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Posted: Friday, June 08, 2018 - 12:40 AM UTC
Magnificent construction & great shots looking up into it. Don’t forget the safety harness for the tiling, it looks a long way down
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Posted: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 - 04:14 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Lot and lots of great progress here and of course a welcome interruption in the tumbleweeds blowing through the forum.
J


I agree with Jerry. ... Cheyenne, your work is extremely refreshing to this forum — pushes all “tumbleweeds” aside!

—mike
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Posted: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 - 09:22 AM UTC
Nice looking scratchbuild. You've captured the weight of it (if that makes sense), it looks heavy and solid. Keep the pics coming.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 - 05:20 AM UTC
Lot and lots of great progress here and of course a welcome interruption in the tumbleweeds blowing through the forum.
J
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Posted: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 - 05:11 AM UTC
Went back to the first concept with double arches on the lower gallery , I'll be casting half round tiles for months , the mold I have only casts 9 at a clip .

















































































cheyenne
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Posted: Friday, May 04, 2018 - 07:51 PM UTC
Thanks Jerry , yeah a lot of people think it's cork . Just plain old Dap dry mix patch plaster .

Thanks Tim , and slow down son I'm gettin old and yes random patches of stucco will be added , I probably was thinking of that the same time you posted , does look a little to neat for decaying wall stucco .

Nick , thanks man I'm really digging working with dry mix plaster .
Create your form and chip and fashion
away , don't like what you did take some wet wall mud/plaster and fill it in and do a re-do .

JG , thanks man I just printed up a b/w ref pic so everyone didn't have to look at my bench all the time . Creating a backdrop is miles away right now but I am thinking on it .
I like your treetop suggestion , that'll work , gotta store that in the back of my melon for now though , still lots of building and casting to do .
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Posted: Thursday, May 03, 2018 - 11:34 PM UTC
Hello there Cheyenne, great looking progress my friend. The vision and execution are top notch quality.

Backdrops are visual key elements to promote scale and size. Those elements along with the colors utilized here really work well my friend. As you continue the progression phases of construction and detailing perhaps you can plan out placements of various foreground objects such as trees to capture more depth in visual presentation.

I'm sure you have all those visual effects planned out on your to-do-list for later but just a thought that instantly came to mind.

Excellent architectural techniques on display here. Thank you sir for sharing!

JGphins
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Posted: Thursday, May 03, 2018 - 10:10 PM UTC
Hi Cheyenne - I really admire your patience with all of the casting of plaster - the result is great! Thanks for the update!

Cheers
Nick