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Hangar Queen 8
john41492
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Posted: Saturday, April 21, 2018 - 12:26 PM UTC
Hi All,

Itís been a while since Iíve made an update, sometimes life throughs a curve and you get onto the DL for 6 weeks. Iím back in saddle and have an update!

So, about four years ago I purchased this kit. Knowing that Iíd be relocating to Malaysia, I wanted to look into shipping times and have something to work on during my visits (twice a year for two weeks). The path I chose was Academy, as they are made in Korea, which is fairly close to here, and the inexpensive cost. This one shipped and arrived in about three weeks, costing just under 20 USD. Armed with new knowledge, I had a little project to keep my busy in the limited spare time. This also resulted in finding supplies, something that was scarce then, and now nearly impossible to get locally. Over the course of vacations, I made progress, but discovered that the Academy curse followed me!

For a newer tooled kit the fit is less than banner, while some of the issues were self-induced, the majority were from the manufacturer. Making me wonder if anyone at Academy even tried to build the kit prior to going to market. Despite the fit issues, I was able to work on my filling and sanding skills.




Following the move and armed with my tools, and a stronger arsenal of materials and supplies, this Queen had the wind at itís back (not much of a wind but moving in the right direction). Tamiya, makes some wonderful products, and some real bombs. I picked up a tube of their UV hardening filler to use to fill some of the many gaps. This stuff, in my opinion isnít worth paint on the label. It tended to harden once out of the tube, and when I was able to get onto the gap didnít fill well at all. To further the frustration, it doesnít sand well either. In order to get rid of the seam, I first had to surgically remove the stuff using a number 11 blade, lots of patience and many unkind words to the inventor of said stuff. I got it off and was able to fill the gap using Mr. Surfacer 500.




This was an expensive adventure on what not to use. I cannot recommend it to anyone for anything. On the other hand, I picked up some of their flexible tape, and really like the stuff! I used it to mask the front of the canopy and in the course of about a minute the front portion of the canopy was done and ready for final masking. This was a huge time saver. Total masking time on the canopy was around 10 minutes.




I was finally able to complete the airframe! Now a new adventure! Painting at the new place while not being completely set up. I laid a coat of Tamiya gloss black down as a primer and to check for any real glaring issues. While this build will be a gloss finish, it has worn me out, so my re-work on the few sanding scratches the are present will be pretty much ignored.




Now onto the base color of gloss white! I believe Iíve gotten over the Academy hurdle and hope that this build will be a bit more pleasant! Making the best of this oneÖ
Buckeye198
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Posted: Thursday, April 19, 2018 - 03:49 AM UTC
A bit more progress. The plane is finally starting to look like a plane! Fuselage is closed up, wings attached, and gaps and ridges puttied and sanded down. I wasn't too careful with the dihedral though. Despite that, the molds set the angle pretty nicely. Pretty surprising, given how poorly the rest of the kit has aged.

(Interesting note, it appears that my model was kitbashed from multiple releases. I bought it from my local model shop's discount pile. It had the original 1974 Monogram box and instructions, some sprues stamped 1974, others stamped 2001, not sure about the decals.)


I also started detailing the booms a bit. I made internal partitions, my first experiment scratchbuilding with sheet styrene.



I'm also working on correcting the cowling rings...the left is closed, and the right is open. Not looking to do much more than open the left side, I do want this to be as OOB as possible.
GaryKato
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Posted: Monday, April 09, 2018 - 11:09 AM UTC
I know how you feel! I am working on Tamiya's 1/20 Brabham BT46 for the Garage Queens 2018 campaign and finding the same things on this kit.

Hang in there.
Buckeye198
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Posted: Monday, April 09, 2018 - 08:35 AM UTC
Kinda quiet round these parts...hope everyone's just hard at work with their builds

I'm making slow progress with the P-61. Honestly it's just hard to get motivated on this kit. The amount of work to put into this kit in order to get a result that I'd describe as "distant and out of focus" or "generally accepted as a Black Widow"...it's a lot for me right now.

But I got probably the most tedious section complete, the crew compartments! The bulk of my time was spent removing mold seams and pin marks, and even still I missed a few throughout. In places, the ejector pin marks were so pronounced that they looked like intentional detailing. I did my best on the cleanup, assembly was easy enough, and detail painting was done by hand with enamels. I did an oil wash over the walls and floors (I'm very new to oil washing, but I think it worked well) and drybrushed aluminum throughout, particularly on the chair runners. Harnesses are my usual masking tape with aluminum buckles painted on.





While gluing the fuselage halves together, the dorsal turret is supposed be sandwiched into place and remain movable. A combo of inadequate glue and excessive mandatory manipulation resulted in the "sandwich" falling apart. Now I need to find a way to glue the turret back onto the stabilizing ring, which is stuck inside the fuselage. I have a feeling it's going to require a maneuver like Michelangelo and the Sistine Chapel.


And yes, I am well aware that I need to make a proper photobooth already
MLD
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Posted: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 - 11:45 AM UTC
wrassled the gallery dragon into submission..

Two pics of the Cobra uploaded.
Got to finish this Merkava and then back to the Coast Guard Hind...
Buckeye198
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Posted: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 - 10:31 AM UTC
Again, thanks to those who gave me the go-ahead on my entry Here's what I'm working with now, just the zinc chromate parts are painted. Green for crew areas, yellow for other interior spaces.




Looking over the kit quickly shows moderate and generalized surface detail, a good amount of pin marks, and SO MUCH FLASH on these sprues. The age of these molds is truly showing, especially compared to all the Tamigawa kits out now. But I knew what I was getting myself into...hopefully I can put together a decent looking bird from these chunky sprues.
john41492
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Posted: Saturday, March 10, 2018 - 01:50 AM UTC
Hi Darrell,

Absolutely! Your starting picture is just that, where you're starting from. How you finish it is up to you. Just load up some progress pictures, I know I'd love to see what your doing to the T-38!

I've got a P-47 in the bullpen, the plane was ruined when the final clear "shattered" (never seen it before or since), so my first thing will be to post the pic and ask the community if they've ever seen such a thing (no replies from the 56th P-47 group build) then it's getting stripped, and done as something different.

Jesper, that is a cool looking drone. I'll be watching with interest!

A quick update on my Queen of Misery. I tinted the glass, a first! Got the 3 parts for the fin/rudder together, and wouldn't you know it! Lousy fit, so more sand fill and repeat for me. Pictures and commentary to follow.

Have fun!
GaryKato
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Posted: Friday, March 09, 2018 - 04:04 PM UTC
I would think it's OK. There's no rule that you can't put more detail in places already assembled.
2002hummer
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Posted: Friday, March 09, 2018 - 09:35 AM UTC
I have one question. After the starting photo is posted can I pull it apart to get at the cockpit and engines to improve them? If not that is fine. My entry will be a Northrop T38 Talon. It was started for the Very Civil campaign. This specific aircraft was owned by the Boeing Company.
SGTJKJ
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Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2018 - 01:43 AM UTC
I am going to get this Vulturax drone done. It has been in the painting lineup for almost a year now. Planning on getting both the base and drone done.

More to follow soon

goofmuilwijk
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Posted: Saturday, March 03, 2018 - 07:48 AM UTC
It could of course be the idea behind another campaign: redemption. I think i have seen something like this before here on Kitmaker. Build a new version of a kit you made as a kid and have fond (or otherwise) memories of. I'm sure we all have kits we think of and wish we had our current level of skill (assuming that your current skill level - whatever that may be - is higher than when you were a wee lad )
GaryKato
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Posted: Saturday, March 03, 2018 - 06:20 AM UTC

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I'm looking to join the campaign, if you'll allow me...mine isn't a hangar queen in the traditional sense. My entry would be Monogram's P-61 in 1/48, either the second or third kit I built by myself. It ended up pretty FUBAR and got thrown away before I finished it. I still have a number of parts from it in my spares box, plus the unused decals. So my "hangar queen" is really more of a "redemption song," as I bought another kit to try to make now what I screwed up about 15 years ago. Again, I realize this isn't what most people think of with hangar queens...but I DID in fact start building the P-61, never finished it, and want to have a P-61 on my shelf now!

Feel free to debate this...I will accept any outcome.



In my opinion, it would not count, otherwise anything would count. It should have been started already to be in the spirit of this campaign. Age if the kit itself plays no part in it.

md72
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Posted: Saturday, March 03, 2018 - 05:04 AM UTC
Robby, FWIW, Hanger Queen is about finishing projects. I think I started last year with 30 queens. Some close to finished and at least one with nothing done but paint in the wheel wells... I managed to get 2 done, and ended the year with 29 queens.
My number one target this year is an F8F Bearcat that is just shy of paint and decals. I just need to replace the 20mm cannons with some AM and it's ready to paint and decal. So while you are starting from a fresh kit, you are trying to complete a project, so I'm fine with it.
Buckeye198
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Posted: Saturday, March 03, 2018 - 04:12 AM UTC
I was hoping for more of a dialogue with this...I think it's a unique rule challenge and thought I could get more opinions out of the community. I'm still glad to entertain further discussion if anyone has opinions. In the meantime, John and Chris, thank you for your blessings I still have a few builds I'm finishing up right now, but I think I can get my Black Widow 2.0 up and running by the end of the year!
c4willy
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 - 03:49 PM UTC
Hey I say go for it! That's likely to be the oldest "Hangar queen" we'll get! And you can't beat it for the nostalgia as well. I get a real kick out of the then and now facet of building skills.

Oh and Michael? Dude it has to be the Sea Vixen .... can't go past a moniker like that!
john41492
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 - 01:20 PM UTC
Hi all,

A bit of an update, I went through the Queen's and it turns out the lowest hanging queen was the Academy F-16! The decals have arrived, but due to the poor kit decals I'll be making masks to do the red white and blue, with the Thunderbird underneath. It's no wonder to me how this ended up as a Queen! I'm not sure about the rest of the community, but to me, it seems that the older Academy kits are a step above the 60's and 70's Monograms regarding surface detail, and step below regarding fit. Anyway, I'll be trundling along with more sanding and filling...

Robby, as you know I've given some considerable thought to your request. The Hangar Queen campaign by its nature has lots of grey areas. Personally, I think that in this hobby the goal is bring the build to a completion. I recall the sage words of a good buddy "Tis easier to buy, than to build.", that said, if you've got the parts and decals and you're motivated to bring it all together, I'm for it. Granted, this takes the campaign guideline to it's loosest interpretation, but if nobody chimes in within the next 2 days, go for it!

Till then enjoy this wonderful hobby!
Buckeye198
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Posted: Saturday, February 17, 2018 - 06:52 AM UTC
I'm looking to join the campaign, if you'll allow me...mine isn't a hangar queen in the traditional sense. My entry would be Monogram's P-61 in 1/48, either the second or third kit I built by myself. It ended up pretty FUBAR and got thrown away before I finished it. I still have a number of parts from it in my spares box, plus the unused decals. So my "hangar queen" is really more of a "redemption song," as I bought another kit to try to make now what I screwed up about 15 years ago. Again, I realize this isn't what most people think of with hangar queens...but I DID in fact start building the P-61, never finished it, and want to have a P-61 on my shelf now!

Feel free to debate this...I will accept any outcome.
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Posted: Monday, February 12, 2018 - 12:49 AM UTC
Well Michael, pick the one you might finish.. you have enough plastic there for a H-Queen 9 , I would like to see that Mirage done, and the Vixen too...

Just have fun with those kits !
Willard79
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Posted: Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 01:37 PM UTC

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Sea Vixen. 'Cause it's funny lookin'.



OK, that's a valid viewpoint. I prefer to think of it as elegant in an unusual configuration.

Michael



I'll concede it has a certain allure...but no more.
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Posted: Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 12:53 PM UTC

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Sea Vixen. 'Cause it's funny lookin'.



OK, that's a valid viewpoint. I prefer to think of it as elegant in an unusual configuration.

Michael
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Posted: Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 12:42 PM UTC
Sea Vixen. 'Cause it's funny lookin'.
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Posted: Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 12:27 PM UTC

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I vote for the Sea Vixen too! I have wanted to do a Sea Vixen since the first IPMS Region IX contest that I went to.



Wow,Gary, long time no see!

Well, so far the Sea Vixen is winning the vote in a runaway.

Michael
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Posted: Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 12:11 PM UTC
I vote for the Sea Vixen too! I have wanted to do a Sea Vixen since the first IPMS Region IX contest that I went to.
md72
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Posted: Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 12:10 PM UTC
FWIW, for the last two Hanger Queens,I've picked the one closest to being finished. Don't really want my Hanger Queens to repeat.
john41492
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Posted: Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 11:25 AM UTC
Hi Michael!

Go crazy! Start with the Vixen. I've always liked it, just never had the moxey to do one!