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Armor/AFV: IDF [Israeli Defense Forces]
Armor and AFVs of the IDF army from 1947-today.
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IDF Light/Heavy Metal
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Posted: Friday, August 18, 2017 - 09:27 PM UTC

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Really digging # 71-72 as they are perfect for a diorama. Another interesting one would be #93 as it will make folks scratching their heads at a show.



You wouldn't happen to know the background history of #71-72 would you?



Obsolete tanks (mostly Shermans and T-34's) were placed along a few strategic locations on Israel's borders as fixed fortifications. No.72 was dropped right on the beach next to Rosh Ha'Nikra (on the Lebanon border), No.72 is near Moshav Yafit in the Jordan valley. 121-123 is in the Jordan Valley as well, I believe it's still visible.

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Posted: Friday, August 18, 2017 - 10:35 PM UTC
Magach 1/2

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Posted: Friday, August 18, 2017 - 11:38 PM UTC
Great effort, thanks so much.

I love multiple shots of the same vehicle from different angles, what a useful reference tool.

I almost think the IDF had a rule that no two soldiers in one unit were allowed to wear the same uniform, LOL, looks like they got their uniforms at a rummage sale.

The .50 cal on the M50 being mounted in different locations is something I hadn't noticed before. And it looks as if the crew member most likely to wear a steel helmet was the commander with the others wearing M38 tanker helmets, makes sense as the M38 offered no ballistic protection. I wonder when the last of the old Soviet tanker helmets was seen?

A lot of ideas for builds and dioramas there, good work.
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 12:05 AM UTC

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looks like they got their uniforms at a rummage sale.



Actually that's pretty much what happened...
Mind you, most soldiers you see on the pictures are reservists. In case of general mobilization, they get whatever is available.



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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 12:14 AM UTC
Thanks for producing a new thread post on this subject.
I can still click on the PB img link on the other thread and view the album but then I have to fight through all the ads and the context is just missing.






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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 12:43 AM UTC
Israel, you now have me wanting to do an M50 and M51!

Thanks.
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 01:13 AM UTC

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Israel, you now have me wanting to do an M50 and M51!



Is that good or bad?
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 01:16 AM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 01:34 AM UTC
Magach 3/5

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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 01:38 AM UTC
Does anyone know what is that antenna array attached to the front of the hull in picture #153? Could it be used to trigger premature explosionation of magnetic AT mines?

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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 02:07 AM UTC

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Does anyone know what is that antenna array attached to the front of the hull in picture #153? Could it be used to trigger premature explosionation of magnetic AT mines?




I think those are chairs.
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 02:18 AM UTC

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Does anyone know what is that antenna array attached to the front of the hull in picture #153? Could it be used to trigger premature explosionation of magnetic AT mines?




I think those are chairs.



Buhahahaha... silly me... you're right. I zoomed in, they do look like chairs.
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 12:11 PM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 12:27 PM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 02:13 PM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 02:28 PM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 04:26 PM UTC
Thanks for that Israel, I was going to ask if you had any Magach 5 w/era photos!
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 05:14 PM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 05:35 PM UTC
Thank you as well Nicos!
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 05:41 PM UTC
OK so I'm now all in for the Magach series. You guys are killing me with this stuff.
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 05:57 PM UTC
Who said there are no forests in the desert?

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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 06:03 PM UTC
1) Thank you very much for taking the time to post / re-post all these pictures. Truly a valuable reference thread for anyone interested in this subject.

2) What is the story behind 195?
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 06:13 PM UTC

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2) What is the story behind 195?



Propably it is the tank that was captured in 1982 during the First Lebanon War by the Syrian Army and until recently was a Kubinka tank museum exhibit.

The vehicle was returned to Israel in May 2016.
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 06:13 PM UTC

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2) What is the story behind 195?



https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/why-has-israel-sent-russia-a-historic-tank-53230


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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 06:17 PM UTC

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The vehicle was returned to Israel in May 2016.



...and Israel sent back an identical Magach 3 to the Kubinka Museum.