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Kampfgruppe Krause at the Falaise Gate
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Posted: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - 06:44 AM GMT+7
Hello Jerry

Not posted much of late as "the real world" has been dominant. I have been checking in though and am impressed with your progress

The house.... I think you're right it was probably a shop front on the street side. And yes the shoulder was wider. I think though that may mean the actual drop was steeper if you see what I mean. More angular in cross-section rather than a gradual slope.

Does this make sense?

Keep up the good work!

Sean
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Posted: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 - 07:13 AM GMT+7

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Hello Jerry

Not posted much of late as "the real world" has been dominant. I have been checking in though and am impressed with your progress

The house.... I think you're right it was probably a shop front on the street side. And yes the shoulder was wider. I think though that may mean the actual drop was steeper if you see what I mean. More angular in cross-section rather than a gradual slope.

Does this make sense?

Keep up the good work!

Sean



Thanks and I see exactly what you mean. I wonder if there was actually a retaining wall there at one point instead of a slope ? I am more and more sure the side door with its' concrete access structure was added much later. This may make things harder and easier,at the same time !
J
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Posted: Friday, October 13, 2017 - 03:30 AM GMT+7
Looks great Jerry, and thanks for the WSS pea-dot SBS! Seems easier now, you kinda de-mystified it for us. Well for me at least. Seriously doubt I'll be picking up the Silvestri book tho, (methinks the Mrs might still be trippin about the $80 I dropped on the Stalingrad foto bible "Angriff") . But now I have your effective technique to go by, thanks man. hehehe

Cheers
Dave
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Posted: Friday, October 13, 2017 - 07:53 AM GMT+7

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Looks great Jerry, and thanks for the WSS pea-dot SBS! Seems easier now, you kinda de-mystified it for us. Well for me at least. Seriously doubt I'll be picking up the Silvestri book tho, (methinks the Mrs might still be trippin about the $80 I dropped on the Stalingrad foto bible "Angriff") . But now I have your effective technique to go by, thanks man. hehehe

Cheers
Dave



Yeah,there are all kinds of refs on the interwebs that you can find on the pea dot. I still am not sure why I spent so much on those books,
J
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Posted: Thursday, October 19, 2017 - 01:59 PM GMT+7
Got some basic colors blocked in on the building next to the gun.

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Posted: Thursday, October 19, 2017 - 02:01 PM GMT+7
fabulous....and the bricks too.
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Posted: Friday, October 20, 2017 - 03:26 AM GMT+7

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fabulous....and the bricks too.



Thanks Greg !
It was brought to my attention that I need to change the R in to a P though. Man o man,good thing I didn't start weathering yet.
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Posted: Friday, October 20, 2017 - 01:33 PM GMT+7
Made the grammatical change and added some more age and wear and tear. I may wait till the whole building is together before the final details are added.

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Posted: Friday, October 20, 2017 - 02:07 PM GMT+7
Le voilà!🍷
jrutman
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2017 - 06:00 AM GMT+7

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Le voilà!🍷



Thanks Mike !
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2017 - 06:36 AM GMT+7
looks great.
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2017 - 06:50 AM GMT+7

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looks great.



Thanks Greg !
J
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2017 - 07:18 AM GMT+7
Hi Jerry

Nice job with the painted ad but...The letter "H" in the word "RAPHAEL" and the second letter "I" in the word "QUINQUINA" are not "connected". I admit it's not that obvious in the b&w period picture but I can assure you they're not

The "I" is similar to this one :


The square dot is hardly noticeable but it's there

H.P.
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2017 - 12:38 PM GMT+7

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Hi Jerry

Nice job with the painted ad but...The letter "H" in the word "RAPHAEL" and the second letter "I" in the word "QUINQUINA" are not "connected". I admit it's not that obvious in the b&w period picture but I can assure you they're not

The "I" is similar to this one :


The square dot is hardly noticeable but it's there

H.P.



Normally I would take this with a grain of salt but I consider you to be a very credible source ! So...back to the drawing board.
I am pretty sure I can still fix this with little luck,
J
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Posted: Sunday, October 22, 2017 - 05:13 AM GMT+7
OK,hopefully the last correction I need to do on this sign.
I added the shorter wall and glued the whole triangular shaped thing onto a matt board backing on the sides and bottom. Now to marry the pieces together with plaster and decide which color to paint the roof tiles. The predominant red/brown terra cotta or a gray ? I will have to check the interwebs as Frenchies' original helpful post concerning general Falaise info was over on the armor forum and has disappeared from my view.



Apart from separating those letters,I also added the white to the bottom of the "u" as I had also missed that ! Tim is spot on,I am glad I didn't choose sign painter as a livelihood.
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Posted: Sunday, October 22, 2017 - 06:10 AM GMT+7

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I will have to check the interwebs as Frenchies' original helpful post concerning general Falaise info was over on the armor forum and has disappeared from my view.



Is it the info you're talking about (from this thread ) ?

http://remparts-de-normandie.eklablog.com/les-remparts-de-falaise-calvados-a126102038

Good job with the ad (I guess it's called "dotting the i" )

H.P.
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Posted: Sunday, October 22, 2017 - 06:22 AM GMT+7
Thanks Man,you can always be counted on ! That is why I also believed you about the sign and didn't even need to confirm it ! I just changed it without a thought.
After looking at the net I think I am going with the red roof tiles. Any thoughts?
J
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Posted: Monday, October 23, 2017 - 06:15 AM GMT+7
Jer, sorry dude if I caused you even the slightest doubt about picking up anything valuable for the cause! You've helped so many us w your knowledge countless times I'm sure.
Onward and upward I say!

Thanks again J
Cheers
Dave
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Posted: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 - 02:05 AM GMT+7

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After looking at the net I think I am going with the red roof tiles. Any thoughts?



Hello jerry

That would be my choice. Most of the older buildings in the town (and the area around Falaise generally) have the same fairly small terracotta tiles.

Looking forward to further progress...

Cheers

Sean
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Posted: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 - 07:15 AM GMT+7
Dave-thanks brother,that was a very very nice thing to say and it means a lot to me !
Sean-thanks for the info. I did decide on the type of tiles you suggested,but I cut corners and used the vacuform ones from Miniart,which are big to my eyes. I just don't feel up to casting my own like I did on my civilian dio a few months back.

Here is where I stand. Bit more weathering done,bit more to go. Added the roof and trim with gutter and the insulator with bracket for this buildings' power line plus made the wooden shutters.






Happy to answer any lurkers' questions as always. I don't bite !
J
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Posted: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 - 07:19 AM GMT+7
Those mini-art tiles look the part. And remember, you don't want the focus on the roof, but on the road area, right....
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Posted: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 - 07:40 AM GMT+7

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Those mini-art tiles look the part. And remember, you don't want the focus on the roof, but on the road area, right....



Exactly. I sometimes get bogged down in details.
J
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Posted: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 - 11:30 PM GMT+7
Now that’s a mini-masterclass in tonal variations - and not the easiest colour to balance out either, just fantastic...did you add some Old Master-type washes/glazes since the Oct 20 pic or is it just lighting? And is that parallax or is the sign-side of the building bowed out? Fine either way but genius to depict an old building that’s sagged. To bog you down in detail a little more, with the ceramic phone-thingy will there be a line(s) hanging down or connected to a pole or something?

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Posted: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 - 01:15 AM GMT+7

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Now that’s a mini-masterclass in tonal variations - and not the easiest colour to balance out either, just fantastic...did you add some Old Master-type washes/glazes since the Oct 20 pic or is it just lighting? And is that parallax or is the sign-side of the building bowed out? Fine either way but genius to depict an old building that’s sagged. To bog you down in detail a little more, with the ceramic phone-thingy will there be a line(s) hanging down or connected to a pole or something?




There are a lot of thin glazes added to the walls until they looked"right" to me. Hard to explain. The nice thing with plaster is,you can tone down a coating that is too aggressive by a light sanding with medium sandpaper !
The wall is bowed out but using a two piece matte board backing. I tried making a sagging roof on my last dio and wanted to try this on the current one. Thanks for you eagle eye bro !
Lastly,yes,there will be power lines. If you look at the pic Sean nicely provided on the first page of this thread,you can see a utility pole at the corner of this building. I will be adding that and some sagging wires as well.
Thanks for checking in Tim,
J
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Posted: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 - 08:05 AM GMT+7

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Those mini-art tiles look the part. And remember, you don't want the focus on the roof, but on the road area, right....



Exactly. I sometimes get bogged down in details.
J



But if they're too wrong, then they become the focus.
These look fine Jerry, don't worry

One thing you might like to include are the little latches that hold open the shutters. If you do a Google image search for "arrêt volet tête femme" you'll see the most common type (a lady's head with a hat on it). Challenging in 1/35th......

Cheers

Sean