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Crusader to Gazala Campaign
TotemWolf
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Posted: Sunday, December 24, 2017 - 05:42 AM GMT+7

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Wimped out on the link and length also included did you Robert.

I have to agree, the kit vinyl tracks are very good, only missing the hole through the guide 'horn' which is not easy to see anyway. You may want to drill out the spare links on the fenders though, as it will be visible there
I have this kit and will be watching your build with interest if you can give any tips along the way.


Why go through pain for so little gain.

I dry fitted the hull together over and over before I finally was able to overcome the urge to detail out things that would never be seen.

As for the spares, they have the correct hole in the guide horn so thankfully no drilling will be needed.

So far, other than the choice of track and when/how to paint the sides, the build has been amazingly straight forward.
I have spent more time looking at references and such than building; only to discover I could have built it blind OOTB and it would have been perfect. Tamiya did a great job on this one.


Almost done with upper hull. I'll get a few pics when that part is done.

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Posted: Sunday, December 24, 2017 - 05:58 AM GMT+7

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... I have spent more time looking at references and such than building ...


Man, I know how that goes! I try, but ... just when I thought I was building OOB, the web pulls me back in!

—mike




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Posted: Sunday, December 24, 2017 - 10:13 AM GMT+7
Merry Christmas Everyone!!
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Posted: Sunday, December 24, 2017 - 11:57 AM GMT+7

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Hi John,
That PE work around the MG will look seriously good. I can't imagine using a dummy gun for such a small weapon. Some of the command panzers had fake cannon, but they sure had real machine guns.

As for the three circled red items you'll have to wait for someone more informed than me.

Keep up the great work!

Gaz



Gaz

After I hit the send tap, i thought about the infantry and Thanks!!


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I have a few questions for all of you.

What are the 3 objects that are circled in red? I have know idea.




Hi John.

They are the armoured glass blocks for the visors. They are removable and spares were kept for replacement. These are the mounts for them which are fixed to the hull, with the spare glass in the mount



Peter

When it comes to info about any afv and tanks, you (& Robin) are the man for providing great info!! Thanks again!

John

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Had a couple hours (12/24/17) before the whole family comes over for Xmas Eve. So i Painted the wood on the tools and rifles with Red Brown.




I don't like how the wood paint is turning out on the rifles. what I'm going to do is, take off the paint (acrylic) and AB Tamiyas Red Brown (XF-64) on, then hand paint the rest.




Was going to use AK Interactive Wood Base (AK779) for the wood on the tools and rifles, but i already had the red brown mixed so i went with it.

JohnA

Merry Xmas Everyone!

Edit:

Peter, what color is used on the glass?

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Posted: Sunday, December 24, 2017 - 01:26 PM GMT+7
Hi John

It is hard to depict the glass as dragon does them in grey styrene. When I put them in my SdKfz 251/9 I just painted the glass very pale grey and then when dry added a drop of green food colouring to some Tamiya clear and painted a couple of coats of that over the glass. From the only angle they were visible it was quite effective.

When I put them in a model where they can be clearly seen, I replace them with scratch built ones. I have used clear styrene sprue for the glass where one face of the sprue was flat, making the mount from strip styrene. Other times I drilled out the glass and the edge of the mount frame facing forward, replaced the face of the mount frame with styrene strip then fit a rectangle of clear acetate in behind.

Again the glass was painted with clear/green food dye mix. It needs to be a subtle colour and you need to make sure it does not pool around the edge. Light coats are best.

Some people use Tamiya clear green to the same effect but thin it.

For your wood, try painting a dark yellow colour first, then using some burnt sienna oil paint thinned well, using a small rounded brush, give it a brush front to back working in 'strips' top to bottom. This gives a nice wood grain effect where the thin colour is a kind of wash that darkens the yellow, but the oil paint overlap also adds subtle streaks. Again make it subtle as the wood grain was not usually deeply transient in colour
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Posted: Sunday, December 24, 2017 - 08:29 PM GMT+7

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Hi John

It is hard to depict the glass as dragon does them in grey styrene. When I put them in my SdKfz 251/9 I just painted the glass very pale grey and then when dry added a drop of green food colouring to some Tamiya clear and painted a couple of coats of that over the glass. From the only angle they were visible it was quite effective.

When I put them in a model where they can be clearly seen, I replace them with scratch built ones. I have used clear styrene sprue for the glass where one face of the sprue was flat, making the mount from strip styrene. Other times I drilled out the glass and the edge of the mount frame facing forward, replaced the face of the mount frame with styrene strip then fit a rectangle of clear acetate in behind.

Again the glass was painted with clear/green food dye mix. It needs to be a subtle colour and you need to make sure it does not pool around the edge. Light coats are best.

Some people use Tamiya clear green to the same effect but thin it.

For your wood, try painting a dark yellow colour first, then using some burnt sienna oil paint thinned well, using a small rounded brush, give it a brush front to back working in 'strips' top to bottom. This gives a nice wood grain effect where the thin colour is a kind of wash that darkens the yellow, but the oil paint overlap also adds subtle streaks. Again make it subtle as the wood grain was not usually deeply transient in colour



Peter,
Some great tips!

Thank you!

Gaz
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Posted: Sunday, December 24, 2017 - 11:49 PM GMT+7
Commonly available source for clear styrene with a smooth surface:
Broken CD-cases.
The edges and corners can be used as structural reinforcement.
Older cases contain a coloured inner part (the one that holds the CD). This part has a structured surface which can be very useful.

I have saved all my broken CD-cases ......

/ Robin
TotemWolf
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Posted: Monday, December 25, 2017 - 06:23 AM GMT+7
I managed to get the main upper hull finished. I still have some work to do on the front part of the hull.

I took these pics before I finished the exhaust system so I'm bit further along than what the pics show.

You can see the spare tracks in the photo below. Love the OTB detail on this one.





So far the build has been very straight forward. As long as you pay attention to what you are doing and what the directions tell you it's a piece of cake. Just make sure you dry fit and check you have the right part in the right place.
Tamiya has really done a great job on the fit. There have been and few spots along the hull where I have had to squeeze a couple of seams together, but I have not had to use any clamps and haven't even considered reaching for the putty.
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Posted: Monday, December 25, 2017 - 08:11 AM GMT+7
JohnA,
I know it is easier to paint rifles and shovels red-brown. But quite often the wood used was much lighter. Keep up the good work!

Robin,
Great tip re: CD cases

Robert,
Those indy track links look great! Glad to hear that Tamiya qualtiy is living up to it's name.

Gaz
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Posted: Monday, December 25, 2017 - 08:56 AM GMT+7
@ JohnA and Robert – Looking good!

Happy Model-days to all!🎄
—mike
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Posted: Monday, December 25, 2017 - 11:01 AM GMT+7

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I have saved all my broken CD-cases ......

/ Robin



Now that ITunes is here, they are becoming a collectors item on their own

Good idea, and here I am wasting them as cyano pallets......
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Posted: Monday, December 25, 2017 - 12:13 PM GMT+7
Having caught a nasty cold, my modelling will be tame for a few days.

Here is my IIIG with some minor color variation:



Next up is hairspray and RAL 8000

Happy holidays,

Gaz
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Posted: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 - 09:43 PM GMT+7
I wouldn't worry so much about using hair spray and chipping the RAL 8000. When these models were first painted, there was a shortage of the correct colors. Coverage was deliberately "spotty" usually being comprised of cross hatched patterns or random swatches of color. The 1/3 of the tank that was supposed to have RAL 7008 was left in gray as well. That's why Rommel's "Greif" was Ral 8000 with dark gray splotches. They never got the RAL 7008.

Not to hijack, but to illustrate. Pz IIIG, Pz Regt 5, DAK.







No chipping done at all on this.

G
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Posted: Thursday, December 28, 2017 - 06:02 AM GMT+7
Wayne,
That looks great! Thanks for sharing! I still have to work within my decal options, though.

Gaz
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Posted: Thursday, December 28, 2017 - 06:16 AM GMT+7
No worries!

If you don't mind, I will switch my entry to a DML Pz III H. It is unbuilt. I have only sprayed red primer onto the wheel backs. I want to participate in the campaign, but work is leaving me little time. The Pz III will be a quicker build for me.

Looking at Pz Reg 8 markings.

G
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Posted: Thursday, December 28, 2017 - 06:24 AM GMT+7
Wayne,
Nicely done! The pith helmet is a very nice touch. Where did you get it? Also curious to which kit that is? TIA.

—mike
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Posted: Thursday, December 28, 2017 - 08:52 AM GMT+7
Yes a very nicely turned out Panzer 3 there Wayne.

If you feel a bit Pithy Mike, there is a couple of helmet's in Dragon's Deutsche Afrika Korp figure set 6063. If this kit is the Dragon Imperial series (the old Gunze kit moulds)reboxed in their Orange Box series Panzer 3 G 'value set' then the figure kit also comes in the Panzer 3 set.

There are also a few Pith Helmets in Minart's German Tank Crew 'Afrika Korp' set 35141 and two in Tamiya's very old set 35008 German Africa Corps Infantry (the figure set also comes in their older Panzer 2 kit).

Pip, Pip, Hey Wot!

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Posted: Thursday, December 28, 2017 - 09:33 AM GMT+7

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... There are also a few Pith Helmets in Minart's German Tank Crew 'Afrika Korp' set 35141 ...

Pip, Pip, Hey Wot!



Good show, Sir Battle! You've just reminded me ... the MiniArt figure set is, in fact on my ScaleHobbyist Watch List.

I'm always on the scout for small details such as in this Afrika Korps screenshot.


Cheerio!☕️
—mike
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Posted: Thursday, December 28, 2017 - 11:18 AM GMT+7
Howdy Y'all
Everyone's models are looking great! Wayne, that is an amazing DAK paint job on the Pz III, can't wait to see your build for this campaign.
Here's the kit I'll be working on.

I need to get some shelf queens off the shelf and into the display case in 2018. I started this kit for another campaign in 2017 but didn't get far. It's Tamiya's 1/48 set of Africa Corps Infantry.

For this campaign I would like to use this kit and put the figures, tent and accessories in a vignette. Since most of the landscape was flat sand I think the groundwork will be in my skill set.
The AT-ST model in the photo is for the Sci-Fi III campaign.
Take care,
Don "Lakota"
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Posted: Thursday, December 28, 2017 - 12:55 PM GMT+7
Thank you all!
The kit is the venerable Cyber Hobby Pz III G, "Africa Korps" version with figures included. The pith helmet either came from this set or Tamiya, however I cannot recall exactly.

Most of my recent builds are of German armor in North Africa. I had a lot of fun with this one replication the spotty finish.

G
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Posted: Thursday, December 28, 2017 - 02:10 PM GMT+7

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No worries!

If you don't mind, I will switch my entry to a DML Pz III H. It is unbuilt. I have only sprayed red primer onto the wheel backs. I want to participate in the campaign, but work is leaving me little time. The Pz III will be a quicker build for me.

Looking at Pz Reg 8 markings.

G



Please feel free. I'll make the notation after work.

Gaz
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Posted: Friday, December 29, 2017 - 04:34 AM GMT+7
Haven't forgotten you guys. With holidays and work I havent had a moment to sit down and work on my 222 or any kit for that matter. Will likely get back into the groove mid January!
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Posted: Friday, December 29, 2017 - 07:46 AM GMT+7
Mike, old bean. By Jove, it quite appears from the rather splendificient photographic rendition you have exhibited, that they unforgivably overlooked removing the extraneous mould seams on the spare road wheels. Good Heavens, what is the world coming to? Hurumph Tootle Pip

That one is an interesting pic, as it shows spare track links running across the rear of the Panzer 3 over the exhaust section. Never seen that before, or at least it is the first time I have noticed it.

Don, I might be wrong, as you cannot prove a negative, but my Aunt's, Neighbour's, Uncle's, nephew twice removed is sure the Panzerkampfwagen AT-ST Ausf B prototype may have made it to the desert just in time for this campaign period.


Welcome aboard.

No problem Rory. As long as you still get to the party
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Posted: Friday, December 29, 2017 - 08:13 AM GMT+7

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Mike, old bean. By Jove, it quite appears from the rather splendificient photographic rendition you have exhibited, that they unforgivably overlooked removing the extraneous mould seams on the spare road wheels. Good Heavens, what is the world coming to? Hurumph Tootle Pip

That one is an interesting pic, as it shows spare track links running across the rear of the Panzer 3 over the exhaust section. Never seen that before, or at least it is the first time I have noticed it.


Good catch! Lol! ... You're quite welcome, Pz III builders all! ... Spare track armor across the rear 🤔 ... for retreat, me thinks! ... And for my next exhibit ... das "ContinentaU."

BTW: Here's the YouTube video I reference from time-to-time. 'Operation Crusader' begins at approx. 14:12. 📽
'World War II in HD Colour Episode 6 The Mediterranean and North Africa'