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Official: Pearl Harbor Anniversary Campaign
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Posted: Friday, January 27, 2017 - 11:43 PM GMT+7
I'm going to build a Gulfstream 1/350th kit of the USS Ward I have had for many years.

Removed by original poster on 01/28/17 - 21:50:51 (GMT).
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Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 11:30 AM GMT+7
Looking forward to your build of the Ward. I have seen the gun that fired the first shot. It resides on the Capital Grounds in St. Paul Minnesota. Most of the crew were from Minnesota.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 11:42 AM GMT+7
Okay, more work on the turrets. Pennsylvania turrets didn't have the vent access panels like Arizona had.

In the image below you can see that Pennsylvania's are smooth



Whereas Arizona's has the vents as seen in this imgage.



So, to more accurately represent Pennsylvania, I sanded off the vents as provided in the kit.




I also added an access platform for the #2 turret as you can see in the image above.

Pennsylvania was the third ship in Battle Division Two and the turret tops of #1 & #2 were painted white, #3 was non skid grey, although there is much discussion if this is correct, and #4 was painted true blue.
In the image below of the ship in dry dock you can see the top of turret #1 and #2 is white.



I added periscopes to #2. A bit out of scale, but I think once on the model and completed it will be fine.




As seen in the image of the ship at Pearl and other images during this time frame, the "bloomers" are off, so I left them off the model. I was going to use the Master Barrels, but to use them without the bloomers would require cutting the receivers and I didn't want to get into that, so I used the kit provided barrels.



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Posted: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 05:06 AM GMT+7
Hi everyone,

I apologize for my absence but real life and travel have interfered with providing updates. I can tall you from personal experience that it was -35 in Fairbanks, Alaska last week.

Bob R. - Thanks for the reference site. Its pretty cool to know what the dispersion of aircraft were at the time of the attack.

Casey B. - nice choice of topic for this campaign. I will be interested in seeing the different USS Arizona's being built and the different approaches to the individual builds.

Mark K. - Your USS Pennsylvania and the posts you have provided are amazing. It is interesting to see the differences in what were considered sister ships. Look forward to reading your updates as you post them. Your scratch building and painting skills amazing. I look forward to the day that I can tackle a 1/200 scale kit with the same skills as you.

Rade M. - nice choice even if I do say so myself. Look forward to seeing how you put the Shokaku together.

Mike R. - nice choice, it seems we have a good distribution of IJN and US Aircraft for this campaign.

Bob R. - Again, another nice choice. I have always had a fascination with the SBD. Look forward to seeing your kit come together.

Liam - Nice choice on the IJN Kagero. It is a fun kit to build. While I have not found any Asashio kits there are kits for the Fubuki Class Destroyer. While they were not assigned to the same divisions I am sure at some point during the passage towards Hawaii that they came within close proximity. Might be an option. Also as long as you post periodic update photos in this thread you can run your own build thread if you so choose. What Upgrade kit did you purchase for this build?

Christian H. - Another fine choice and yes you can join with your build. Is the PE Deck a solid piece of brass? Look forward to seeing what you do with this build.

Irvin A. - very nice addition to the campaign. The ship that fired the first shot of the war has a special place. Look forward to seeing your build.

I have not been idle in my time away so I will provide some visual updates soon. The IJN Akigumo is coming along nicely and I finally have the line drawings for the IJN Shokaku so that build has recommenced. Just not quickly.

If anyone has any questions please let me know. The Pearl harbor Chief Historian is a friend and a member of our modeling club here in Hawaii. I will ask him anything you might need for your builds.

Everyone is doing amazing work and I thank you for participating in this campaign.

Dave

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Posted: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 05:13 PM GMT+7
Thanks Dave for checking in and your comments. Accept for the overall appearance the ships are totally different in almost every respect.

The hull is a major difference between Pennsylvania and Arizona. Albeit similar, there are major differences. The most obvious is the way the torpedo blister, or armor belt, ends abruptly rather than being blended in like Arizona. The drawing below shows how it abruptly ends on Pennsylvania.

This is a very noticeable difference. My problem was how to achieve this. The kit armor belt is a little too narrow, so adding 1/16 strip and sanding it aft and blending it forward I was able to achieve. this.
If I did it again, I would probalby use a smaller strip below the boot topping but; I am happy with it.
Visible in the image below is one of the two fuel stations as well. One of my porthole rings came off and I need to replace it.


In the image below you can see how the aviation fuel line returns to the hull with the apparatus as shown here.



Now that the hull is done, I can move on to the deck fittings.

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Posted: Thursday, February 02, 2017 - 07:15 AM GMT+7
Hi Dave,

yes the flight deck is one piece. Or to be precise one upper part and one lower part glued together.

I started at the weekend with the Zeros. These are the multipart Fujimis with Flyhawk PE.





But after the seeing the pics I find the wings to thick.
So I will change to the ones from Lion Roar set.
I just got the frst and have to say they are way better.
I will made some comparison pics at the weekend.

Greetings Christian
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Posted: Thursday, February 02, 2017 - 12:47 PM GMT+7
Mark was feeling kind of lonely, so I thought I'd post. Nothing worse than a lonely Marine..
After getting time behind the computer and then ironing out the picture posting aspect I'm ready to go. I guess I'll begin my postings by an overview of my model subject. I am modeling the USS Arizona in 1/200 scale manufactured by Trumpeter. Everyone should know about this model; it's been out(now discontinued) for awhile. I'm not going to get too much in the weeds about the inaccuracies of the kit in as much that I will add/correct any flaws as long as they detract overall. Basically if one can live with the flaw, so be it! One can get really involved in this kit with the corrections. The problem is progressing forward even when you uncover more info on some details you've already completed and moved on..
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Posted: Thursday, February 02, 2017 - 01:02 PM GMT+7
I am depicting her in the first week of December while at sea during training. She had just arrived back at Pearl the day before the attack and was preparing that Monday to receive the 1.1" AA guns/directors as well as her search radar up top on the foremast. She is in Sea Blue (MS 11). I know there will always be a debate on what measure she was in on 7 December and my rational is pretty sound. 1) The directive (Ships 2) came out in 1/41 but painting was not immediately executed since the tinting color was not yet available. By late that year it was, especially in the yards if not on ships itself. 2) She had a collision with the USS Oklahoma in October 41 with put her in drydock. At this time is when she got her color change. Prior to this she was in 5D Measure 1. 3) She was a flagship, so her paint job, given the opportunity, would be compliant. There are also first hand witness accounts of her strikingly blue paint job. So there it is...adding pictures after dinner!
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Posted: Thursday, February 02, 2017 - 02:21 PM GMT+7
Okay....So to start, I'm trying to put certain points of interest with my progress reports, so it might seem I'm skipping a lot of the assembly. There have been many great builds and I encourage you to look into all modeler's creations.
The Trumpeter 1/200 Arizona when first look was that the torpedo blister depicted on the model wasn't wide enough. Pictures show a wider area with the downspout/scupper covers just falling short(about a scale foot-a distinct edge. The model shows more of an as built look. So I widened the sides. Another rather glaring error is the anchor hawse pipe hole which should have a flange in order to deflect water away from the hawse pipe due to the overhang of the foc'sle. Also the hole go strait though the sides when they should go upward in the track of the anchor.
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Posted: Friday, February 03, 2017 - 12:37 PM GMT+7
Also to note I added the aircraft fuel line on the port side and scratch-built the six hull staples and down spouts. Finished the blister with access hatches and additional pipes. Eduard makes the hatches and down spout covers, but I had already finished them and installed them when I received the PE set. Their hatches seemed a little too small so I kept mine on..
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Posted: Friday, February 03, 2017 - 02:26 PM GMT+7
Hi Randy:

I like the hatches you put on the torpedo blister vice the Eduard ones. I used the Eduard ones and they are hardly visible. I especially like the treatment you did on the anchor hawse flanges. Nicely done. The extra piping on the blister is noticeable and adds interest to an otherwise overlooked area of the ship.
Nice to see your pictures here, I don't feel so lonely now.
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Posted: Friday, February 03, 2017 - 02:29 PM GMT+7
Hi Christian: The wings may be too big, but your work with the PE canopy framing, prop and landing gear is noteworthy. Looking forward to seeing what you do with the other aircraft for comparison. I can't imagine in 1/700 scale that oversized wings would be that noticeable from normal viewing distance.

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Posted: Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 02:32 AM GMT+7
Great start so far Randall.

Hi Mark here are the comparison pics. I think the advantage of the Lion Roar planes are clear.
As I had to buy some extra sets anyway, that is no problem.







For the ship, I'm near to add the flight deck. I have to finish two other projects first but I want to have the flight deck glued on for the modelling show in March.

Greetings Christian
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Posted: Sunday, February 05, 2017 - 03:10 AM GMT+7
Hello Christian:

Clearly the Lion Roar a/c is more detailed and to scale. The photos dramatically display the difference. These will look nice on the flight deck and I am sure much easier to work with than the clear plastic versions. Outstanding work with the PE, you must be a surgeon to accomplish the placement of those very tiny pieces.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 02:49 PM GMT+7
Exquisite work on those planes, Christian, beautiful!
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 03:05 PM GMT+7
I agree! Definitely can't have allergies and be sneezing when building those! Yoku ganbattane!
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 03:30 PM GMT+7
I've been researching the measure used on the Ward on Dec. 7. It seems she was still in Ms. 1. does anyone have any information to confirm. The fleet was under orders to change to Ms. 11 at the time of the attack. I know Arizona was half Ms. 1 and Ms 11.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 09:06 PM GMT+7
Thought I'd better weigh in to the campaign thread with my recent progress.
The N'Orleans is coming along well.

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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 09:21 PM GMT+7
Just caught up on this campaign.

Some amazing builds and attention to the history of the Day.

Ill be in the US next month, maybe ill get a small ship to get into the campaign. Anyone know a good LHS there?

Irvin, Im really excited to see that USS Ward and its awesome paint job.

Cheers,
Bryan
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Posted: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 - 01:13 AM GMT+7
Paul happy to see your modeling the New Orleans, having grown up and lived in the crescent city most of my life. I remember as a 10 year old first seeing the 1/48th scale builder's model of her when it was on display at the International Trade Mart Building in New Orleans.

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Posted: Thursday, February 16, 2017 - 03:26 PM GMT+7
Okay time for some more pictures. In this series of photos I tackled the Artwox deck install, the degaussing cables and the turret with associated details The first photos are of the seam on the wood deck around the foc'sle area. This is blended later.

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Posted: Thursday, February 16, 2017 - 03:28 PM GMT+7
More shots around the model.