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My first HEMTT - the Italeri LHS
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Posted: Thursday, April 05, 2018 - 12:23 PM UTC
Michael,

Apparently, The Miniman Factory sell their container decals separately.

http://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=251471&page=1#2265115

There is also a (Belgian?) company, which makes decals for containers, but I forgot the name of the company.

Regards Thomas
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Posted: Thursday, April 05, 2018 - 12:31 AM UTC
Somewhat impatiently waiting for a PLS and a new HEMTT A4 to hit the market.

I understand about the A4 (Trumpeter has to recoup the mold cost of doing the A2 first.) but cannot really comprehend why no one has yet to offer the PLS???
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Posted: Monday, April 02, 2018 - 10:53 PM UTC
Repeat of an earlier question:

Does any after market supplier offer container decals to represent other international shippers?
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Posted: Monday, April 02, 2018 - 10:17 PM UTC
Tom, I have built both - they are somewhat different in their construction but both about equal in quality and ease. To me the real complaint is the limited decal choices offered. I do hear the manufactures are now offering more choices these days so you may want to check this before you take the leap.

I just checked the web and neither manufacture mentions new decals. Italeri has two offerings/different boxings; one a civilian container with decals marked for "China Shipping" ONLY. Then they also offer a seperate military boxing that contains US Army, USMC and Italian Military markings. To my knowledge the Trumpeter offering comes with civilian "China Shipping" decals ONLY!
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Posted: Monday, April 02, 2018 - 12:55 PM UTC
Hoorah, glad it is soon my birthday, will most likely by the gift from myself to myself :-)

Is there consensus, the Trumpeter 20" ISO container is the better choice between the Italeri and Trumpeter offerings?

Regards Thomas
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Posted: Sunday, April 01, 2018 - 10:31 PM UTC
Now Available from MMK Hobbies - M1076 flat rack trailer:


Manufacture's homepage:
http://www.mmk.cz/en/

pdf of instruction sheet:
http://www.mmk.cz/upload/products/pdf/646357379237a5e5e2215cce698713c8.pdf
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Posted: Friday, February 09, 2018 - 03:28 AM UTC
That M1076 trailer you have been wanting is getting ever closer.



Milan Krnac of MMK Hobbies just shared the following photos with me showing the first test runs on their new model.

Unfortunately the final release date on this new item is still undisclosed.

The company web link is:

http://www.mmk.cz/en/








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Posted: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 - 01:57 AM UTC
Work'n on it!




Cannot exactly explain why getting the guides mounted correctly (width wise and height wise) is proving to be such a bear?
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Posted: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 - 05:42 AM UTC
Regarding my CHU it will go on my experimental Oshkosh 8x8 LHS (alreadt built) and I intend to scratch build the guides and install them perimentally in the deployed position to accept the container.

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Posted: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 - 01:14 AM UTC

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I didn't realize it was so close to a M1120. Looks like removing the fenders and outriggers at the end and you're mostly there.



That and a few other parts. Mainly the stuff on the right side front fender (THADD control box and APU) needs to go and be replaced by the HEMTT spare tire holder. Put the standard fuel tank back and remove a few pieces off the right side of the frame (storage box and a few guage panels) and you are good.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 - 12:58 AM UTC

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Exactly. Just leave off all the THAAD parts and changes to the truck and add the basic HEMTT parts and you will be good.



Thanks! I really should have simply sat down and googled about the THAAD - I didn't realize it was so close to a M1120. Looks like removing the fenders and outriggers at the end and you're mostly there.

Regards,

Brad.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 - 12:50 AM UTC

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Brad regarding the p.s. in your first comment - you are correct. Even if you acquired the CHU (scratch built or 3D printed) you would still need to create the rear container guides.

That is why Gino keeps prodding Mike Goldberg to create them to accompany his 3D printed CHU.



Ok thanks! So are you planning on using a CHU on your fine M1120 LHS? If so, will you replace the guides or have some sort of way to "hot swap" them so you could show both? Or perhaps use the CHS on another vehicle?


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I continue to be surprised that someone is not already selling decal sets for the containers given that the two main hobby manufacturers offering the containers offer such a limited choice in markings.



It does seem like a missed opportunity. I wonder if potential licensing issues are to blame?

I'll also note that while the folks at Miniman were very nice and helpful, I'd only know to ask about the decals because of what I've read here. The set is harder to order than it needs to be.

Regards,

Brad.
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Posted: Sunday, February 04, 2018 - 06:42 AM UTC

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Sorry to ask such an obvious question, but if I combine the THAAD kit with the new sprue from the Italeri M1120 LHS that contains the "rack" (or whatever it's called - sprue "F") that I could replicate the M1120 LHS that is the subject of this thread?



Exactly. Just leave off all the THAAD parts and changes to the truck and add the basic HEMTT parts and you will be good.
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Posted: Sunday, February 04, 2018 - 03:15 AM UTC
Brad regarding the p.s. in your first comment - you are correct. Even if you acquired the CHU (scratch built or 3D printed) you would still need to create the rear container guides.

That is why Gino keeps prodding Mike Goldberg to create them to accompany his 3D printed CHU.

As to ordering separate container decals from miniman factory I have been remiss (and also my interests for the moment have moved elsewhere.) I continue to be surprised that someone is not already selling decal sets for the containers given that the two main hobby manufacturers offering the containers offer such a limited choice in markings.
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Posted: Sunday, February 04, 2018 - 02:38 AM UTC

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Another thought: maybe there is an A4 in our future and they are holding off offering the CHU to include with that model.



Being old and cynical I suspect you are far too optimistic :-)
But it's nice to see hope.

BTW I'm sorry if this is old info, but while re-reading your excellent thread I wanted to make sure you checked out the container decals from Minimanfactory. If you mail them directly they will sell you just the decals from their 20' container ( http://www.minimanfactory.com/en/20ft-iso-freight-container-i28/).

I bought a couple of sets and they are very nice.

Regards,

Brad.
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Posted: Sunday, February 04, 2018 - 02:32 AM UTC

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The kit includes all the parts for an M1120 LHS. It has all the parts from their M983 kit, so you can build an LHS from it.



Sorry to ask such an obvious question, but if I combine the THAAD kit with the new sprue from the Italeri M1120 LHS that contains the "rack" (or whatever it's called - sprue "F") that I could replicate the M1120 LHS that is the subject of this thread?

Thanks,

Brad.

PS I assume that to also use the CHU - scratched or 3d printed - I'd need to be able to swap the rear guides?
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Posted: Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 11:49 PM UTC
Another thought: maybe there is an A4 in our future and they are holding off offering the CHU to include with that model.

That would make for a bit of a stir in the industry!
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Posted: Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 11:46 PM UTC
Trumpeter had greatness in their grasp but instead settled for just an incremental improvement.

The CHU and associated equipment would be a great candidate for a follow-up kit to the LHS. (Just like Tamiya did with the anchor recovery plow for the Famo - even though they left out a major part of that set-up!)

A follow-up kit would keep the initial sale price down a bit and in the end make Trumpy more overall profit. So there is still room for hope!
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Posted: Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 08:31 PM UTC
More bad news from Nuremberg. Definitely no CHU.

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Posted: Friday, February 02, 2018 - 03:56 AM UTC
Well that's just SWELL!

What we need are some scaled blueprints but Oshkosh ain't share'n.
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Posted: Friday, February 02, 2018 - 03:30 AM UTC
Uuugggg!!! This pic from Nuremberg is still showing it w/out the CHU.
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Posted: Friday, February 02, 2018 - 02:58 AM UTC
If I can ever get over this love affair with aircraft that I seem to be having right now I would set a goal for myself to finish the experimental Oshkosh 8x8 LHS (with the CHU and container guides.) I have hopes this will happen with the new "Scratch Builders" campaign that just started!
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Posted: Friday, February 02, 2018 - 01:12 AM UTC
Well that still leaves us having to build those rear container guides but that is interesting. Maybe that is why Trumpty is holding off bringing their's to market, they have to come up with those guides.
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Posted: Thursday, February 01, 2018 - 10:33 PM UTC
Mike,

Something interesting. I have found a full sprue layout of the Trumpeter THAAD. The kit includes all the parts for an M1120 LHS. It has all the parts from their M983 kit, so you can build an LHS from it. Check it out here.

I may not wait for the promised Trumpeter M1120 kit and just get one of these and build it as an M1120 w/the 3D CHU and scratch CHU supports. It may be worth it based on their release schedule. The only hope I have on the delayed release is that Trumpeter is doing the CHU after all. The rest of the M1120 is already there.

What do you think?
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Posted: Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 07:47 PM UTC
Just an F.Y.I. - an article on scratch building a Container Handling Unit (CHU) is going on over at the following thread for those who might be interested:





Here is the link:

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=252818&ord=&page=12